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Re: Confession time [Re: Wanna Be] #7776673
01/19/23 06:16 PM
01/19/23 06:16 PM
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Marion Kansas
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I though it was either Steeltraps or Tejas that did the deer head thing but wasn't sure....

Steeltraps
Time and opportunity doesn't allow me to run a bunch of traps or do it 365 days a year and I'm a little envious of those that can. So the next best thing I can do is run bunches of test sets mostly year around. And as a learning lure maker testing is the best thing you can do. Just too many individual ingredient to understand how they work and too many failures in formulations to put everyone in front of a trap. I usually get around 200 test sets in in a year. Those without a camera I can usually get information from multiple reactions. When I run cameras I can watch up to 5 different reactions in just one night, normal to see 10 different reactions in a week. Testing just provides way more experience in shorter amount of time. I can also put test holes in road right aways without getting permission which puts me on way more coyotes. Plus there's just things that you will learn from test sets that you just won't see with catches. Ultimately the coyote in the trap is the final exam. But anyone (and I'm not pointing this at you in any way Steeltraps) who down plays test sets is being ignorant in my opinion. There is a difference in some respects between trapping and test sets but with experience you learn what they are and learn how to interpret both. And I also have sent over $1500 of lures and bait (at a retail value) and spent hundreds in shipping out of my own pocket to sent formulations to serious coyote men in at least 10 different states to test my results while trapping.

Last edited by Yes sir; 01/19/23 06:21 PM.
Re: Confession time [Re: Wanna Be] #7776682
01/19/23 06:26 PM
01/19/23 06:26 PM
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Yes Sir. O I get it!!!! I would do the same IF i couldn’t set lots of traps = 365. I guess its just ME. I can stand the fact of = not catching a coyote. I am willing to test = in the same way. SURE i will put a camera on it. But something DEEP inside of me want allow me to do what you do. It MUST have a trap their ! LOL!!!

Re: Confession time [Re: steeltraps] #7776693
01/19/23 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Yes Sir. O I get it!!!! I would do the same IF i couldn’t set lots of traps = 365. I guess its just ME. I can stand the fact of = not catching a coyote. I am willing to test = in the same way. SURE i will put a camera on it. But something DEEP inside of me want allow me to do what you do. It MUST have a trap their ! LOL!!!

Your passion for catching coyotes is inspiring Steeltraps. I have a serious passion for understanding why and how we catch coyotes. It's not just about knowing how to catch coyotes for me it's what makes them tick.

Re: Confession time [Re: Yes sir] #7776707
01/19/23 07:14 PM
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I can respect that Yes Sir. Even = Roy McBride = would rather study a mt lion now. Than kill it Unless he just has too cause of predation. That hard to believe. But we heard him say it. Nothing wrong with studying. Life greatest advisary. LoL!!!

Re: Confession time [Re: Wanna Be] #7777010
01/20/23 12:52 AM
01/20/23 12:52 AM
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That’s why I like to keep cameras out for coyotes, etc instead of just deer. To learn.


"Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom." Song of Solomon 2:15
Re: Confession time [Re: Wanna Be] #7777011
01/20/23 12:52 AM
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And I hate you for having soft ground grin


"Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom." Song of Solomon 2:15
Re: Confession time [Re: Wanna Be] #7777126
01/20/23 07:40 AM
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Well good job. I learn something new every single year and I’ve been at it for over 40 years. It’s easy to settle in and get complacent, doing same thing and getting same results. I’ve taken on some good tips, and disregarded others. But I’m always willing to try and see what works in my area. Keeps the line really fun and challenging…just like our weather.
Jim grin


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Re: Confession time [Re: Wanna Be] #7778806
01/21/23 08:54 PM
01/21/23 08:54 PM
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Indiana
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Good post. Being a newer trapper in my 4th or 5th year I can definitely relate to the wanting to tweak. Thankfully I heard/read enough people say “have patience” that I gave it a try. Some days I almost think I’m lazy to not go fix something, but I’ll just drive on by anyway.

Re: Confession time [Re: steeltraps] #7779853
01/22/23 09:03 PM
01/22/23 09:03 PM
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Alabama
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
You guys. Have got it right. Keep on learning. 35 years and I am still learning about coyotes. Know. I have to learn about taking coyote trapping jobs where I have to sleep on army cot!!! LoL!!!


Dang ST, I think I'd have to pack an inflatable mattress just in case they drug the cot out.

Re: Confession time [Re: KB64] #7779888
01/22/23 09:23 PM
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KB 64 all is well know. They got me a twin size bed. I am in a brand new house. But have 0 furniture. 1 chair and a large mineral bucket for a table. But. All new appliances and a brand new bath room. Oven is like a science project. It says it has WiFi??? New hard wood floors. Nice 3 br place. Just was empty when I got here! LoL!!

Re: Confession time [Re: Wanna Be] #7779989
01/22/23 11:01 PM
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Good to hear, that cot may have been the coyotes revenge

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