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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7759182
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All we are talking about is cleaning metal. I have a recipe and make my own, but the bottom line is all you are doing is cleaning metal. If you don't mind the price, I am sure it works, but so will alot of other cheaper products.

I would advise against using Boresnakes due to barrel wear, except in extreme circumstances.

Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Providence Farm] #7759254
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Green County are you talking about one shot case lube for a cleaner? I have a savage 62 .22lr that I can't get the action apart to clean(have never figured it out?) So I just dump solvent in it work it ans wipe off what runs out. Ues a dental pick to scrape off what I can get to also. Bore snake with #9 a few time on I and done.

It used to get a lot of use when I was young but has not been Shot in several years since the front sight got broken off when one of my sons knocked it over and it hit on a rock when I was skinning squirrels.

I'm planning on using it again. It is light, accurate and beet to heck. Scrached Plastic stock and no blue left on the barrel = no worried about bug spray on my hands removing the finish on my 31A and it's much lighter than it also.

A dry lube should help it keep from gunk building up and run longer.


Pretty sure he's talking about this...

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1014743671

Never used it myself. But Pete has helped me out quite a bit and never steered me wrong. smile

You might try it if you need a dry lube that doesn't collect gunk.

Mike


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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Providence Farm] #7759324
12/31/22 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Green County are you talking about one shot case lube for a cleaner? I have a savage 62 .22lr that I can't get the action apart to clean(have never figured it out?) So I just dump solvent in it work it ans wipe off what runs out. Ues a dental pick to scrape off what I can get to also. Bore snake with #9 a few time on I and done.

It used to get a lot of use when I was young but has not been Shot in several years since the front sight got broken off when one of my sons knocked it over and it hit on a rock when I was skinning squirrels.

I'm planning on using it again. It is light, accurate and beet to heck. Scrached Plastic stock and no blue left on the barrel = no worried about bug spray on my hands removing the finish on my 31A and it's much lighter than it also.

A dry lube should help it keep from gunk building up and run longer.


the 9990 gun cleaner and lube

https://www.amazon.com/Hornady-9990-Shot-Cleaner-DynaGlide/dp/B000LC9YM2


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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7759330
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Who cleans their guns?


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: 160user] #7759342
12/31/22 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 160user
Who cleans their guns?


Gotta clean the cosmoline off them when you dig them up after Trudope gets voted out.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Mike in A-town] #7759351
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town


Hoppes No. 9 is kerosene.


and ethyl alcohol, oleic acid, amyl acetate, ammonium hydroxide...


Eh...wot?

Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Steeltrap] #7759361
12/31/22 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeltrap
All we are talking about is cleaning metal. I have a recipe and make my own, but the bottom line is all you are doing is cleaning metal. If you don't mind the price, I am sure it works, but so will alot of other cheaper products.

I would advise against using Boresnakes due to barrel wear, except in extreme circumstances.


I have heard the bore snake argument , if you pull it harder against one side you could be creating added wear on that side , you are talking the wear from a soft nylon pull rope.

if you are carful to pull strait out the end it wouldn't drag on one side of the crown or another so it is very much context

for sure on your 1000 yard gun or your f-class bench gun a rod from the breach only but when you think about a 10/22 and cleaning it from the muzzle unless you have a hole bored in your receiver to push through from the back.
a spray and drop the weighted end through the ejection port to drag the crud out the muzzle

a glock pistol barrel spray some one shot and drop the cord through and pull strait , stop and re grab if you need to.
the likelihood of excessive wear is very minimal

even your 30-30 lever gun as long as you use a clean bore snake with a good strait pull out the end your risk is lower than never cleaning it and just "shooting the junk out"

I guess you have to ask what's worse a bore snake or an aluminum 3 piece rod from the muzzle ?
not everyone is going to have a bore guide from the breach with a Tipton coated rod and brass jags while that would be ideal some guns don't clean well from the breach.

pulling a clean bore snake strait through 2-3x a year on a 30-30 or a 22lr , I guess I don't see as a huge wear issue.


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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7759384
12/31/22 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by Steeltrap
All we are talking about is cleaning metal. I have a recipe and make my own, but the bottom line is all you are doing is cleaning metal. If you don't mind the price, I am sure it works, but so will alot of other cheaper products.

I would advise against using Boresnakes due to barrel wear, except in extreme circumstances.


I have heard the bore snake argument , if you pull it harder against one side you could be creating added wear on that side , you are talking the wear from a soft nylon pull rope.

if you are carful to pull strait out the end it wouldn't drag on one side of the crown or another so it is very much context

for sure on your 1000 yard gun or your f-class bench gun a rod from the breach only but when you think about a 10/22 and cleaning it from the muzzle unless you have a hole bored in your receiver to push through from the back.
a spray and drop the weighted end through the ejection port to drag the crud out the muzzle

a glock pistol barrel spray some one shot and drop the cord through and pull strait , stop and re grab if you need to.
the likelihood of excessive wear is very minimal

even your 30-30 lever gun as long as you use a clean bore snake with a good strait pull out the end your risk is lower than never cleaning it and just "shooting the junk out"

I guess you have to ask what's worse a bore snake or an aluminum 3 piece rod from the muzzle ?
not everyone is going to have a bore guide from the breach with a Tipton coated rod and brass jags while that would be ideal some guns don't clean well from the breach.

pulling a clean bore snake strait through 2-3x a year on a 30-30 or a 22lr , I guess I don't see as a huge wear issue.



Nails it for me. O I have coated one piece cleaning rods and bore guides for my AR's and bolt guns. But they come a part easy and are simple to push through from the breach.

Now on my savage 62 I can't push from the breach end and from the muzzle is a pain and no better than the bore snake. Same with the 10/22 like you said.

Now that 62 I bought for $89 @ walmart when I was 18 it was a truck gun for years has no finish some rust piling on the barrel and scratches and flat spots where the checkered is worn of where it rubbed on 4 wheelers during transport. It rough as a cob yet It's still a tack driver I can head shoot squirrel with 50 yards or a little more after rough treatment over the last 24 years. To say a bore snake can hurt it or I would be concerned about that at all is a non issue in my opinion. Now if it was a fine hi end gun maybe I would worry about it but not likely. I have not seen ill effects on my cheap gun in all these years to back up the claim of dammage from a bore snake.

Last edited by Providence Farm; 12/31/22 06:33 PM.
Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7759386
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I use Shooter's Choice and Hoppes Bench Rest Copper Remover.

Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7759392
12/31/22 06:39 PM
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the other product that test right along side the Hornady one shot cleaner and dry lube for rust protection was the wd-40 speicalist dry lube with ptfe
https://www.amazon.com/WD-40-300052...&hvtargid=pla-310579748106&psc=1

it may not be the same thing but it is very close and 8 dollars a can not 17 so I have been using that on things like locks and tools and a little on guns.

great for door locks and the padlocks on the gates at the range and such.


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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #7760127
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
Line jumper, check out this video. I started using the one with the best results. I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fibRewlndLg&t=11s



Thanks for the link, interesting that none did everything well, Clenzoil looks good.

Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7760131
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I have used Shooters Choice and Butches, trying to find something less harsh that still works on copper. I remember reading years ago that the strong ammonia based solvents caused microscopic cracks in the bore, probably bs.

Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Diggerman] #7760138
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Originally Posted by Line Jumper
Hoppe’s no9 is great for powder but does nothing for copper fouling, Is Ballisol ammonia based?

Yah, but the smell......

Ya never heard of aroma therapy ??


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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7760161
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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7760292
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Originally Posted by Line Jumper
I have used Shooters Choice and Butches, trying to find something less harsh that still works on copper. I remember reading years ago that the strong ammonia based solvents caused microscopic cracks in the bore, probably bs.


I can't understand how chemically it could cause a crack that wasn't already there , I see where it could uncover it.

I have used the barnes cr-10 you sure don't use much have the same bottle probably 6 years.

when I couldn't find that one day it had fallen behind the bench I bought a bottle of sweets 7.62

I also have used a couple bottles of the Hoppes Elite Foaming bore cleaner it does still get the copper , not quite as fast but it sure dosn't burn the nose like CR-10

for any of the strong copper removers the tipton bore guide kit is very handy it keeps form getting it in the bolt recesses and on your wood , or action

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1014920517?pid=685691

make sure to flush well after using any of the copper cleaners to neutralize them

you also need to go to a non brass jag , the CR-10 and similar eat the brass jag, they make nickel plated ones that last longer.

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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7760326
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Kroil oil is what we use. I have taken some guns that did not group to 1 ragged hole with it.


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Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: Line Jumper] #7760354
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Ammonia is hydroscopic. Bonds with water in the air. After using any of those copper scrubbers that have ammonia clean the solvent real good or you will get rust.

I dont think you need to deep clean like that very often unless your shooting bench rest competition rail guns or something. Rust is what screws up rifles. Get em out and oil them a couple times a year. I always run a few patches through the bore after shooting and then oil them before I put them up . About once a month I oil my truck gun and trapping pistol during season. Give them a good cleaning after season ends


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Throw that Hoppes crap out the window and go with 1 Step CLP from Pro Shot Products.

Re: Gun cleaning solvent [Re: danny clifton] #7760445
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Ammonia is hydroscopic. Bonds with water in the air. After using any of those copper scrubbers that have ammonia clean the solvent real good or you will get rust.

I dont think you need to deep clean like that very often unless your shooting bench rest competition rail guns or something. Rust is what screws up rifles. Get em out and oil them a couple times a year. I always run a few patches through the bore after shooting and then oil them before I put them up . About once a month I oil my truck gun and trapping pistol during season. Give them a good cleaning after season ends


yes it is and you can rust a brand new rifle if you don't get it flushed and oiled

I have found cleaning copper on a new rifle around 30-50 rounds then again around 150-200 seem to be able to shoot a while without much build up.after the barrel is broken in.
on my 223 wylde about every 500 rounds copper is still not to bad to clean.


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