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Christian Persecution #7738723
12/09/22 07:47 AM
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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738747
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I’d give a crackhead $40 to burn the place down.


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738752
12/09/22 08:28 AM
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Yep christians don't like it when goes back the other way. Everyone now day being persecuted by someone.
Oh the irony of it all..
Merry Christmas.

Mac


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738753
12/09/22 08:29 AM
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That might be a bit harsh. lol. How about a good old school sit in. A predominately black congregation "sitting in" would be perfect.

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Originally Posted by J Staton
That might be a bit harsh. lol. How about a good old school sit in. A predominately black congregation "sitting in" would be perfect.


I’ve come to the conclusion that the left are a lot like coyotes, the only thing they understand is violence. Until that changes, make them understand every opportunity.


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738763
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The refusal to serve wasn't based on the group being Christian. It was because they oppose legal abortion of human babies and special rights for and promotion of homosexuality.

I guess that is the restaurant's right to choose who they will serve and who they will not. But it is incredibly hypocritical of the restaurant to say that they respect and promote inclusiveness and diversity and then follow it up with an action like this. What a bunch of two-faced bigots!


What from Christ that soul can sever,
Bound by everlasting bands?
None shall take thee
From the Strength of Israel's hands.

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To the ground.


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738769
12/09/22 08:44 AM
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Patently illegal discrimination under current law and precedent.

Doesn't even compare to the Colorado ruling as those involved coercive speech violation of 1A. To wit the bakery owner was requested to craft a cake saying something she morally disagreed with. She offered to make a plain cake without speech instead. The state found her guilty of discrimination SCOTUS overturned it and protected her right to not speak.

This case does not involve speech or state coercion.

This is exactly the same as saying we don't serve Irish or fill in the blank.

Now if the group asked their servers to join them in saying the blessing before the meal then the restaurant has every right to refuse.


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: Kart29] #7738770
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Originally Posted by Kart29
The refusal to serve wasn't based on the group being Christian. It was because they oppose legal abortion of human babies and special rights for and promotion of homosexuality.

I guess that is the restaurant's right to choose who they will serve and who they will not. But it is incredibly hypocritical of the restaurant to say that they respect and promote inclusiveness and diversity and then follow it up with an action like this. What a bunch of two-faced bigots!

Christian business have been sued and put out of business for refusing services for gay marriages. The law calls it discrimination when it's done to the left.

Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738775
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But as a true free market believer I have no issue with any privately owned establishment picking and choosing clientele for whatever reason they choose. As politely or crudely as they so desire. It is the right of free association and ultimately the market will sort it out.


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738776
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Originally Posted by J Staton


This is discrimination but not persecution per se.

Re: Christian Persecution [Re: Macthediver] #7738784
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How is it going the other way when events like the Colorado baker case are discovered to be cherry picked by the left to go after individuals known to be Christian?
Christianity is under assault by the left while the only thing the right and Christians seek is protection of the unborn and removal of activity they believe to be immoral from the public square. I've yet to meet any of this so called Christian taliban the left claims to exist.

Originally Posted by Macthediver
Yep christians don't like it when goes back the other way. Everyone now day being persecuted by someone.
Oh the irony of it all..
Merry Christmas.

Mac


Oh the irony.


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738786
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Private businesses should be able to conduct business however they choose.

I wouldn't care if they went back to separate water fountains. Like Warrior said, the free market has a remedy for most things.

Whining about discrimination is weak.

Re: Christian Persecution [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7738789
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I’d give a crackhead $40 to burn the place down.


An armed robbery or two would be a more effective application. The concerned employees could donate to the cause of lifting up the disadvantaged.


Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738793
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I thought christians were upset they couldnt discriminate? I think its funny. I guess they can go to court and get a judgement that will allow them to eat there. Or they can say a business has a right to choose customers which was their position when a baker refused to make a cake for a gay couple. I am on the side of refusing service to anybody you want. It is after all a PRIVATE business.

Everyone thinks they ought to tell others how to live. I am tired of it


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: Blaine County] #7738794
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Private businesses should be able to conduct business however they choose.

I wouldn't care if they went back to separate water fountains. Like Warrior said, the free market has a remedy for most things.

Whining about discrimination is weak.

I agree but not an hour and a half before start time. You agree to provide service you should be obligated to deliver. The Christian that didn't want to do gay marriages said no from the beginning.

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I guess that restaurant will be loosing part of there customer base. I don't know why they would go to such a place fore there meeting any way, that's like having an AA meeting at a pub. The article does show the hypocrisy of the woke, inclusive crowd. God brought Lot out of Sodom. Maybe prayers to God that this could open someone's eyes that's having convictions about bad choices and God will have mercy on then and they will find grace.

Re: Christian Persecution [Re: danny clifton] #7738801
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I thought christians were upset they couldnt discriminate? I think its funny. I guess they can go to court and get a judgement that will allow them to eat there. Or they can say a business has a right to choose customers which was their position when a baker refused to make a cake for a gay couple. I am on the side of refusing service to anybody you want. It is after all a PRIVATE business.

Everyone thinks they ought to tell others how to live. I am tired of it


Right are there still restaurants that have a dress code? Tie and sports coat for guys? I think some golf courses do? Or at least I have heard they do. Can't just wear any old ratty TShirt.
Really no different in big scheme things. Just what you choose to pick at.
Kinda back to the original
No Shoes
No Shirt
No Service.

Was that not directed at hippies?

Mac


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Re: Christian Persecution [Re: ] #7738803
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Let private businesses be private. Government has for too long "stepped in" to solve issues that the private sector could better sort out.

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Private businesses should be able to conduct business however they choose.

I wouldn't care if they went back to separate water fountains. Like Warrior said, the free market has a remedy for most things.

Whining about discrimination is weak.

I agree but not an hour and a half before start time. You agree to provide service you should be obligated to deliver. The Christian that didn't want to do gay marriages said no from the beginning.


If there was a contract, sue for damages--the cost of finding a new place to host the event.

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