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Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697452
10/21/22 04:57 PM
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Vengeance is definitely a dish best served cold. I had a man that accused me of stealing a pup from him about 30 years ago. Of course I confronted him about it at the time but…I work for the county highway department now and there is a hole I front of his house that never gets fixed. Lol


Looks like he needs another year;-)
Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697470
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To me there is a difference between vengeance and revenge. Vengeance is swift and equal to the crime committed. Revenge is what most of you are talking about, waiting until later to get back at the perp in, often, unrelated ways. I do not care for revenge. Punishment for transgressions, whether justice or vengeance should be swift.

Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697473
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I was never big on vengance I always live by the Golden rule."Do unto others before they have a chance to do it to you".


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Strut10] #7697510
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Originally Posted by Strut10
Originally Posted by Boco
Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.


^^^^^^^^^^
This right here.

I spent the first 40 or so years of my life a master at vengence. Either immediate OR eventual. NOT the guy you wanted to end up on the wrong side of...........

Occurred to me one day that, even though it didn't really affect the rest of my day-to-day life, there was an facet to it that I knew.......but was ignoring.

Matthew 6:14-15

For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.



Pretty straightforward. So, I started putting wrongs done me by others in God's hands. The vengence IS His...............and once I give it to Him........there's a relief and a weight lifted that I had not previously realized was there.

Exactly. It's not about the other person as much as it is about not carrying around that boulder of resentment or anger in your chest.
It will literally kill you slowly. I'm convinced that a large percentage of health issues come from carrying stress because of anger at other people.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697517
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I wanted to kill the guy that rant the light and killed my son for years.

It wouldn't bring my son back and it was not like he killed my son intentionally. The intentionally part is what saved him. So he is still alive as far as I know.

Had it been internal only God or my death would have saved him.

Killing those hurting others intentionally should be a paid and applauded position. For example those using and operating the human trafficking operations. Not necessarily for vengeance, justice, or other words used to vindicate giving the wrong doers what the deserve. But to put a permanent end to their business and end the human suffering they are causing.

It not right to lock them up and make others pay for their food and care. If thay get locked up they better be made to work and produce something to pay for their incarnation. If they don't work they don't eat.

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Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697518
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Not many christians on this site.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697525
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Grace and mercy.


From Zion, perfect in beauty, God shines forth. Psalms 50:2
Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: PAskinner] #7697528
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Most vengence is lowering yourself down to or below the level of the person who did you wrong so of course, it's overrated. There's much more satisfaction to be found in taking the high road and letting God do the avenging.

Is this a quote from Big Mike Obama?


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Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Boco] #7697537
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Originally Posted by Boco
Not many christians on this site.



You seem to have a misconception about Christians. I'm a Christian that does not mean I'm perfect and not a sinner. In fact just the opposite is me admiting I and a sorry pitiful excuse of a man and broken sinner. That I am only saved by God's Grace.

So I still have to fight against my sinful nature it did not go away. The difference is now that part of me discuss and is repulsive to me and I'm ashamed of it. Yet I don't hide it and try to act like I'm a perfect I admit my flaws .
I so wanted to kill the guy that killed my son. What saved him at first was I was injured and could not carry it out. Then I had time to think enough to decide to give it 10 years so I would not be the first thought and suspect.

During that time I came to realize it was not his intent to kill my son and I could easily have been in his spot whe I have accidentally ran a light or two not paying attention.

All 3 parts were God's grace to me . Now I no longer want harm to come to him. He may even be safe if he were in the same room with me.

Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Providence Farm] #7697603
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Boco
Not many christians on this site.



You seem to have a misconception about Christians. I'm a Christian that does not mean I'm perfect and not a sinner. In fact just the opposite is me admiting I and a sorry pitiful excuse of a man and broken sinner. That I am only saved by God's Grace.

So I still have to fight against my sinful nature it did not go away. The difference is now that part of me discuss and is repulsive to me and I'm ashamed of it. Yet I don't hide it and try to act like I'm a perfect I admit my flaws .
I so wanted to kill the guy that killed my son. What saved him at first was I was injured and could not carry it out. Then I had time to think enough to decide to give it 10 years so I would not be the first thought and suspect.

During that time I came to realize it was not his intent to kill my son and I could easily have been in his spot whe I have accidentally ran a light or two not paying attention.

All 3 parts were God's grace to me . Now I no longer want harm to come to him. He may even be safe if he were in the same room with me.



THIS


TILL THAT DAY.....
Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697643
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You hurt my family and only God can save you. You may call in vengeance if you want, I’ll call it Justice and sleep soundly at night.
I’ve been beaten beyond recognition before, many years later when Uncle let me go home for a long weekend I ran into the same three from all those years before. I wasn’t in school anymore even though I was still younger. Now that was pure vengeance on my part. One still carry’s remembrance of that night. One died of an OD. And one ended up in prison for rape.
Those were in my younger years. Happy to say my children have never seen that side of their Dad. They’ve never seen me drink or fight and as long as nothing ever happens to them, they never will.

Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697669
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What is it if you take someone deep into the woods....put a big washer on a 6"spike...nail their hand to a tree, gag em and leave em?


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Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697672
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Vengeance used to be sweet to me, a think to brag about. A couple of examples are trap thieves I got revenge on. Now I regret the actions I've taken and realize I'm just as guilty as the peaple who commited the act. Phil Robertson tells a great story about catching some fish thieves robing his lines or nets, not only does he not seek revenge he sends the thieves on there way with the fish and tell them if you were that desperate you should ask . This stopped an ongoing broblem he'd had being robed. More importantly he planted a seed of forgiveness in those men, I've taken similar actions in my life since I've come to realize what a sinner I am and always have been. I also know now that our Lord's blood was shed for rorgivenes of my sins . ROM 12,21 says Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. So that's how I will live till I die.

Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697687
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Vengeance, revenge call it, label it, define it. Makes no difference, immediate or years later, you will finds the scales balanced or even tipped my way. It can bea heavy burden but one I am comfortable with. Some have said it is hate, or a sin, it simply keeps me warm at night.

Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697712
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a dish best served cold


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Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697716
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We all have fantasies in our mind of spiteful deeds dished back to those that have wronged us. But it should go no further than that. I have been wronged a few times and every one of those people got more Karma back than I could of dished out. Just takes patients and a little time. Works both ways too.

Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697722
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Nailing somebody to a tree could qualify as vengeance but getting sent to prison after you did it would be called justice.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697723
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When we get into repaying with like kind it takes a righteous skill to get things exactly even. I believe the proper term would be an exactor.

Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697733
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Originally Posted by Marty
What is it if you take someone deep into the woods....put a big washer on a 6"spike...nail their hand to a tree, gag em and leave em?


That’s called a fetish.


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Re: is vengeance overrated? [Re: Marty] #7697735
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Eliminating vengeance would take the great out of a lot of great movies. lol


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