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Re: More Info from GFW [Re: jbyrd63] #7692129
10/14/22 09:28 AM
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How many beaver are going to be twenty dollar ones 4 out of 100 ? He can throw twenty dollars around all he wants but the average is going to be ten dollars or less. Glad he’s buying but it’s called drumming up customers.


Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692155
10/14/22 10:09 AM
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Put the beavers up and put them on the sale if ya don't like his price-guys averaged $20 for damaged, slight damaged beavers up here and got to sell the castors as well. Trappers who do serious damage control plus getting extra cash for green skinned beavers after the fact and the castors-I would be all in. Ya don't have to sell the beavers to him if ya don't like the price-take them home and put them all up-there are other outlets. I truly enjoy trapping beavers-are love putting them up if I am not in a rush to finish them etc..The more you put up the easier it gets. Gets me out of the office and I enjoy the outdoors too much to say I am not going to trap.But from what I can see in the beaver market-if they are getting aggressive to buy all the beaver they can get-so will the other guys buying.

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: MB Coonguy] #7692183
10/14/22 10:50 AM
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Really you don’t have to sell if you don’t like the price??LOL


Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
Re: More Info from GFW [Re: jbyrd63] #7692207
10/14/22 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Digger after reading it again real slow it makes my point even more. GREEN to me means skin it and roll it up. How many animals have any of us skinned that we would have loved to get 20 bucks for. Yes who doesn't want more?
Compare it to a PUT UP raccoon !! Lot more work to PUTTING UP a coon compared to a green beaver. Plus the castor . Just saying. The ones he is TOSSING into the pit are ones he is getting OR going to get paid to trap. Otherwise he is trapping them for FREE. No at a loss because of the expenses to catch them then tossing them.

Im sorry, What I got out of his post was that if people do not want to pay a fair price for his goods, they can pack sand. He then went on to try and justify his Fair price.

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692238
10/14/22 11:58 AM
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I don't know about the word "fair" but he has standards. Everybody has different ones. Some people have none.


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Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692240
10/14/22 12:01 PM
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He is making money. I will toss them before i let someone else make money off a commodity I am going to lose money on


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692243
10/14/22 12:04 PM
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If i can’t make money on my fur why should I let someone else make money on it


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: More Info from GFW [Re: danny clifton] #7692246
10/14/22 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If i can’t make money on my fur why should I let someone else make money on it

So they can stay in business so there will be someone to sell furs to if a market ever does develope. Selling Ata loss, lessens the loss. Don't trap them if you're in it for the money.

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692252
10/14/22 12:21 PM
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So money trapping is bad , buying for profit is fine, and no body will buy when there is a resurgence in the market if we don’t give our fur away? So you buying are you?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692309
10/14/22 02:41 PM
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You sure can read a lot into a simple post.

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692310
10/14/22 02:56 PM
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It would be nice if they were worth more, but I'm going to go after them regardless of the money. I started trapping cause I enjoy it, making a little money is a bonus.


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Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692320
10/14/22 03:19 PM
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Well the more people who say there arent trapping them then that helps raise the possibility for the rest of us to get a slightly better price.

If he buys green beaver hides like he has in the past he like them folded in half and then in half again and frozen. Buying in that manner can keep a lot of fur issues hidden out of sight. So they are taking a fair amount of risk by buying that way. Hence he said put up beaver will be higher because all the issues are out for everyone to see.


You loose money hunting ducks, geese, deer, rabbits and the list goes on.


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Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692324
10/14/22 03:33 PM
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So if you won't sell your fur that you worked for, why are you trapping and then being upset at the offering?

This idea sounds like the Union talking to workers, "Thier getting rich off your breaking your backs"! Really?

So if GFW goes out of business because trappers won't sell to them, then other buyers may die off also.

GFW buys from local trappers and buyers. Those vehicles are not cheap to buy and put fuel in!


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Re: More Info from GFW [Re: danny clifton] #7692328
10/14/22 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
He is making money. I will toss them before i let someone else make money off a commodity I am going to lose money on


Maybe somebody will give you a free skinning machine and some lures so your cost to produce is lower and you can stay in the trapping business? smile


Who is John Galt?
Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692342
10/14/22 04:02 PM
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I mean no disrespect so please no one take it this way. If I am getting paid to trap beavers, then could possibly make $20 a beaver for just skinning, and then what ever you might possibly get for caster, I don't know how your loosing money?? Unless your driving a diesel truck that gets 6 miles per gallon and driving 200 miles a day. Like I said I am just trying to figure it out.

I trap for fun and will be running about a hundred miles a day this year for a few weeks. I do not trap for money, I trap because I enjoy trapping and love the outdoors!! I could care less about the money and trust me , I am not rich. I wish we had beavers, I would be tickled pink for $20 beaver that all I had to do was skin. Instead I am happy for $5 coon!! Haha!! Honestly I think I am going to donate my fur this year to our local trappers association.

I guess when I think about it we have have 2 different kind of Trapper's, some who trap because they just enjoy it and some who only trap for money?? Either way guys and gals just have fun!!

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692349
10/14/22 04:12 PM
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Everybody jumped on 20 for beavers . That's not what he said he started his video with 20 would be there TOP price. In years passed that meant the best and down hill from there?

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692351
10/14/22 04:13 PM
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So some people would toss a beaver because the $20 isn’t worth the time to skin?I didn’t think it was too much trouble just skinning them.
Another thing. Not one person has asked what the beavers position is on this topic!

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Shakeyjake] #7692356
10/14/22 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
So some people would toss a beaver because the $20 isn’t worth the time to skin?I didn’t think it was too much trouble just skinning them.
Another thing. Not one person has asked what the beavers position is on this topic!


I'm pretty sure when mister 2022 beaver gets to beaver heaven, he is embarrassed to tell pre 1987 beaver what he got killed for. smile

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Re: More Info from GFW [Re: ~ADC~] #7692359
10/14/22 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by danny clifton
If i can’t make money on my fur why should I let someone else make money on it

So they can stay in business so there will be someone to sell furs to if a market ever does develope. Selling Ata loss, lessens the loss. Don't trap them if you're in it for the money.

I'm not in it for the money, but I'm certainly not selling my furs to anyone just to keep them in business, especially for the sake of keeping them around if the market bounces back. Maybe I misunderstood you, but why would any trapper do that?

Re: More Info from GFW [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7692366
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Buyers lose money too but-not deliberately. Seems like a few would split the difference so trapper and buyer lose an equal amount instead of expecting the trapper to take all of it


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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