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Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? #7691730
10/13/22 08:40 PM
10/13/22 08:40 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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You fellas who live in big cat country or mess with Bob's alot: had a friend ask me about these pictures. They look like cat kills to y'all ? Told em I'd ask some folks more knowledgeable then myself [Linked Image]
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Would prefer no to say where these where taken for a few reasons just wanna know what y'all think.
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Thank you for all the responses so after eveyone, just received this from them.
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In the uk 75% of all sightings are of black cats only 15% puma 5% lynx 5 % bits and bobs like jungle cats etc, so we are dealing more leopard than puma here, though we have had a dna sample taken from a deer that had both leopard and puma dna on it ??? the sheep in the picture has no leg trauma which I would expect in any canid attack it has a single bite to the throat 4 claw marks in its back and the organs consumed as I said the farmer disturbed it before it was finished this is what I would expect from canids and lastly the stomach content moved to the side is a feline trait we’re as I would expect dog,Fox,bear or coyote would happily consume the stomach and it’s contents ???
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Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691756
10/13/22 09:01 PM
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Deer look like the work of a bear. Sheep could be about anything.






Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691802
10/13/22 09:34 PM
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Lions and bobcats both cover up what they dont eat most of the time. kick dirt rocks pine needles grass etc over the remains


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Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691859
10/13/22 10:29 PM
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Most likely dogs.

Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Doug B.] #7691870
10/13/22 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug B.
Most likely dogs.


My uneducated first thought with the way it looks like the guts were targeted and the kills not covered.

Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691917
10/13/22 11:30 PM
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I've seen and worked a lot of lion kills here in the southwest and does not look like cat kills to me. I also vote for dogs especially given that the country and the deer species indicate these photos may be from England.

Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691930
10/13/22 11:48 PM
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They are not cougar kills.


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Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691936
10/14/22 12:10 AM
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I would agree canine attached the sheep. If the sheep was from the flock in the background of the deer in the third pic >> loose running dog/s.
The deer have had something chewing on them capable of breaking thru bone. But may not have been the actual killers. Predators are all opportunistic feeders.


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Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691943
10/14/22 12:29 AM
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I live in an area with lion, bobcat, coyote, dogs and occasional wolf and have seen kills left by all. Without seeing things up close scat, track bite marks I would say the first pick could be a coyote with the neck bites the rest, my best guess is dogs. Bears and cats would drag the kills a distance and cover what was left. Coyotes will grab by the neck and hold on till dead. Dogs will kill for fun grab and bite what ever they can get a hold of. Bears would have eaten most of what was there covered the rest. Cats will skin an animal out much like a trapper from the hind end and not do much damage to the pelt.

Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691944
10/14/22 12:35 AM
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I raise sheep -- looks like dog/coyote to me - more like dog actually with the middle being eaten so badly . Numbers of animals and timeframe also tell a story - as does time of day if known.

Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7691977
10/14/22 05:23 AM
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Your pics look like different things with sharp teeth doing the predation.

As an example, this axis was killed by a lion - throat punctures (they eat out the body cavity like a surgeon many times... and they usually don't cover their prey)... and then the coyotes fed on the flanks and made a mess as coyotes always do.

I caught the 92 lb. male lion day 1 and then I caught 6 coyotes around this axis in the days to follow.
The Axis was killed 80 yards from the main ranch house in south central Texas. Trying to seek safety probably.

CSI'ing the carcass is best done with eyes on.

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Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7692559
10/14/22 09:30 PM
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Thanks everyone

Re: Mt.Lion/ bobcat kills ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7692628
10/14/22 11:26 PM
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The 2 pictures of a sheep laying in green grass with a flock of sheep behind it looks like a cat kill to me. Cats will pluck out fur or wool in this case, coyotes will just eat the fur/wool. Cats also tend to feed on the organs first but pull out and not eat the stomach as in this case. Coyotes tend to eat the hind end first and will eat the stomach. The other pictures don't have enough there for me to tell much.

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