Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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So would you Christians be angry, or at least dissapointed, if God let good atheists and other good people who though Jesus Christ was just another fairy tale, into heaven?
Keith No. My preference would b that everyone made it there.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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If I may ask where do u find the beliefs or truths about God that you hold to? I believe a Supreme Being started all this and there is a heaven but not necessary the other place. I personally don’t know who is right about religion but don’t preach to me that you (not you personally but people in general) are right because they don’t know just like I don’t know.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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If I may ask where do u find the beliefs or truths about God that you hold to? I believe a Supreme Being started all this and there is a heaven but not necessary the other place. I personally don’t know who is right about religion but don’t preach to me that you (not you personally but people in general) are right because they don’t know just like I don’t know. Buy a Bible and read it yourself or go to a Bible believing church and ask the pastor to explain it and show you were it is in the Bible.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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Yes sir
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Thanks for the reply. I do believe the Creator sent his word to us through the Holy Scripture and the Christ. As my earlier post eluted to I don't think he would create us and not give a blueprint of how to live our lives or know the truth.
I'm assuming based of your post you really don't hold to any truths about the after life and what is to come? I'm assuming this because u said u don't know and neither does anyone else. By some of your statements like a good atheist getting into Heaven and there being a Heaven I'm thinking that you are finding these beliefs somewhere. I'm just wondering where? Are you coming up with them yourself or are they just someone else teachings that you believe or a combination of things? I do believe it's good that all of are asking these questions and that we search to find the answers. Maybe it is put on our heart to ask these questions for a reason.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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Yes sir
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If I may ask where do u find the beliefs or truths about God that you hold to? I believe a Supreme Being started all this and there is a heaven but not necessary the other place. I personally don’t know who is right about religion but don’t preach to me that you (not you personally but people in general) are right because they don’t know just like I don’t know. If this Supreme Being made this earth and a Heaven that we all get into why not just make this earth Heaven from the get go?
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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Guss, I think there are things in the Bible that are metaphors or symbolic and not actual occurrences. For example, Noah’s Ark. I don’t think it would be physically possible to do what he did including building a boat that huge and gathering and storing all that feed for every animal on earth. How did he get all the animals across the oceans including in North America to come aboard? How did he clean the ship of the mess with thousands of animals onboard. Did he get every micro organism, insects. etc, on the ship. As far as Adam and Eve, something else had to happen in their situation. The first creatures considered humans such as Cro-Magnon Man and Neanderthals were not very pretty and I doubt God made himself in their image. Since Adam and Eve are considered the first humans, they could have not come after these prehistoric humans unless they were them.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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Guss, I think there are things in the Bible that are metaphors or symbolic and not actual occurrences. For example, Noah’s Ark. I don’t think it would be physically possible to do what he did including building a boat that huge and gathering and storing all that feed for every animal on earth. How did he get all the animals across the oceans including in North America to come aboard? How did he clean the ship of the mess with thousands of animals onboard. Did he get every micro organism, insects. etc, on the ship. As far as Adam and Eve, something else had to happen in their situation. The first creatures considered humans such as Cro-Magnon Man and Neanderthals were not very pretty and I doubt God made himself in their image. Since Adam and Eve are considered the first humans, they could have not come after these prehistoric humans unless they were them. Your thinking with your natural mind, God can use anything or anyone,after all he made earth,sun,moon,stars nothing hard for him to do.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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Guss, I think there are things in the Bible that are metaphors or symbolic and not actual occurrences. For example, Noah’s Ark. I don’t think it would be physically possible to do what he did including building a boat that huge and gathering and storing all that feed for every animal on earth. How did he get all the animals across the oceans including in North America to come aboard? How did he clean the ship of the mess with thousands of animals onboard. Did he get every micro organism, insects. etc, on the ship. As far as Adam and Eve, something else had to happen in their situation. The first creatures considered humans such as Cro-Magnon Man and Neanderthals were not very pretty and I doubt God made himself in their image. Since Adam and Eve are considered the first humans, they could have not come after these prehistoric humans unless they were them. Your thinking with your natural mind, God can use anything or anyone,after all he made earth,sun,moon,stars nothing hard for him to do. You maybe right.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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So would you Christians be angry, or at least dissapointed, if God let good atheists and other good people who though Jesus Christ was just another fairy tale, into heaven?
Keith As long as I made it that would be fine with me lol. However, God would have to change the rules for that to happen.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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why would satan torture people doesn't he run (h)not god? i though they didn't get along and if god runs (h) why have satan? I as a parent would not torture over and over again one of my children if he did not believe in me or worship me or kill animals and burn them up so i can smell it.(this worked for thousands of years to make god happy isn't being happy a human feeling? god seems to have a lot of human feeling that most everyone has umm why is that? Maybe because God (G) made us in his image??
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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Quite an interesting thread.
Liberal theologians (discussion of God - which this thread is) in recent centuries are defined as those who agree that certain parts of Scripture are true while discounting other portions. TMan has some liberals in its midst based on commentary.
Blessings, Mark
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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"If this Supreme Being made this earth and a Heaven that we all get into why not just make this earth Heaven from the get go?"
He did, but Adam & Eve's insatiable urge for some Apple Crisp, so to speak, led to their disobeying God, who provided everything for them. Those naked Garden of Eden frolickers opened up the Original Pandora's box and all of humankind has suffered since.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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It ses to me reading this thread alot of the people don't read God word. That's not good because your gambling with your destiny. Good comment Guss. Scripture is God's Story revealed for us to know. How can any of us love someone we don't know? We can't. How do we know of God? By His revelations to us. Creation - Scripture - Jesus Word to the World - Scripture Word in the World - Jesus Christ World of the Word - Creation Blessings, Mark
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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Yes sir
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"If this Supreme Being made this earth and a Heaven that we all get into why not just make this earth Heaven from the get go?"
He did, but Adam & Eve's insatiable urge for some Apple Crisp, so to speak, led to their disobeying God, who provided everything for them. Those naked Garden of Eden frolickers opened up the Original Pandora's box and all of humankind has suffered since. Valid point. I guess I should have worded different. The question I was trying to get at was more why not make it so that there couldn't be any wrong done on the first earth.
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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"If this Supreme Being made this earth and a Heaven that we all get into why not just make this earth Heaven from the get go?"
He did, but Adam & Eve's insatiable urge for some Apple Crisp, so to speak, led to their disobeying God, who provided everything for them. Those naked Garden of Eden frolickers opened up the Original Pandora's box and all of humankind has suffered since. Wouldn't that be like putting you in jail because your neighbor killed someone?
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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"If this Supreme Being made this earth and a Heaven that we all get into why not just make this earth Heaven from the get go?"
He did, but Adam & Eve's insatiable urge for some Apple Crisp, so to speak, led to their disobeying God, who provided everything for them. Those naked Garden of Eden frolickers opened up the Original Pandora's box and all of humankind has suffered since. Valid point. I guess I should have worded different. The question I was trying to get at was more why not make it so that there couldn't be any wrong done on the first earth. In other words, why did he put the temptation there in the first place?
Time is more precious than gold if you know how to spend it .... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad NRA LIFE MEMBER, Endowment Member
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Re: If an atheist went to heaven
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So would you Christians be angry, or at least dissapointed, if God let good atheists and other good people who though Jesus Christ was just another fairy tale, into heaven?
Keith a better question would be: would the atheists in heaven still BE atheists, after having been proven wrong?
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