Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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Long story short... Wyoming is proposing giving 50% of the nonresident hunting permits to those that book with an outfitter/guide. Basically, screwing the regular guy out of opportunity. Public comment has opened up for the next version of the outfitter/landowner drawing on NR licenses. If you can take the time to fill out this survey and tell them that you Oppose Outfitter set aside for Nonresident hunting permits, I would appreciate it. We need to flood the Wildlife task force with opposition to this ridicules bill. https://sites.google.com/wyo.gov/wyomingwildlifetaskforce/home/public-input
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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07/19/22 06:05 PM
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Those guys that use a guide are shooters , not hunters .
Figure it out on your own or go home
Just my opinion of course
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
[Re: elkantlers]
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Canada did the same thing years ago and I haven't been back since.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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What percentage of nonresidents use a guide currently? What percentage of total license revenue is provided by NRs? NR tags getting out of hand. I've DIY hunted moose to gators, for both financial AND personal satisfaction reasons. I had less than $1000 in a DIY antelope hunt in WY. Airfare, rental, tag, food, gas, etc Granted it was 15 years ago, so likely good bit more now, but nice that an Average Dave can swing it.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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What percentage of nonresidents use a guide currently? this kinda matters. If 1/2 of all NR tags use guides now then whats the difference? only issue I can see is at what point do they say you have to use a guide or not? when you apply or after you get a tag.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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What percentage of nonresidents use a guide currently? this kinda matters. If 1/2 of all NR tags use guides now then whats the difference? only issue I can see is at what point do they say you have to use a guide or not? when you apply or after you get a tag. Exactly. Reminds me of a conversation I had recently with a bear hunter in Minnesota who told me there were too many nonresident bear hunters and Minnesota doesn't have a limit on the number of tags being sold to nonresidents. He said he thought only 25% should be dedicated to nonresidents. I asked the DNR bear biologist about it and he told me that less than 20% of the licenses are currently being sold to nonresidents.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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Please spread the word. the way it stands right now you can't hunt any high country without a guide either if your a nonresident.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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What percentage of nonresidents use a guide currently? I don't really know but being able to use a guide won't go away. If someone draws a tag and wants to use a guide, then more power to him. I just don't like 50% of the tags being only for people who pay a guide to hunt. This will hurt DIY guys. Opposing this bill will just make it an even playing field so to speak.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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What percentage of nonresidents use a guide currently? this kinda matters. If 1/2 of all NR tags use guides now then whats the difference? What if only 10% of the applicants use a guide? Then it will pretty much guarantee the people who use a guide a tag.only issue I can see is at what point do they say you have to use a guide or not? when you apply or after you get a tag. [/color]
The way it reads is that you must have contracted with a guide before you apply.
This is nothing more than outfitter welfare...[color:#3333FF]
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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What percentage of nonresidents use a guide currently? What percentage of total license revenue is provided by NRs? NR tags getting out of hand. I've DIY hunted moose to gators, for both financial AND personal satisfaction reasons. I had less than $1000 in a DIY antelope hunt in WY. Airfare, rental, tag, food, gas, etc Granted it was 15 years ago, so likely good bit more now, but nice that an Average Dave can swing it. Good looking Goat... Sounds like it is about time you made another trip to Wyoming.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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07/20/22 12:45 AM
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Please spread the word. the way it stands right now you can't hunt any high country without a guide either if your a nonresident. That is not true in Wyoming. You must have a guide in federal wilderness areas only, and it can be a resident guide that is not an outfitter. It is not good for DIY hunters and residents are not in favor.
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Re: Wyoming Hunting. Help keep tags public
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07/20/22 01:53 PM
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Agree Wytex and every year I get a complimentary guide license so I can take non residents family or friends into wilderness to hunt. Outfitters want this to happen just like Montana tried and it will flop totally. No need to worry, however the residents do want less licenses to go to non residents. Our limited resource we want to hunt it. The game and fish in this state makes most of its revenue off hunting and fishing licenses. Very little comes from the legislature, which is good the sportsman of our state dictates what will happen not the politicians. The biggest dollars comes from out of state hunters due to the higher cost of license. Yes the Game and Fish wants more money. The sportsman in our state wants the tags and less hunting pressure, and the outfitters want to make money. Bottom line the sportsman of our state will dictate what happens. For the most part sportsman want the licenses and residents don't need an outfitter, it is not going to happen. Just remember, the outfitters and game and fish are in bed together, there was a day the game and fish told outfitters they were not there for guaranteed pay for outfitters, but boy has that changed, game and fish has lost a lot of respect from the outdoorsman in Wyoming, because they want public comments, but have their minds made up before they even ask, so this needs to go down in flames!
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." -- Thomas Jefferson
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