Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: jooleyen]
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06/04/22 09:55 AM
06/04/22 09:55 AM
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Without actually seeing how it was held it's all a guess on what really happened. This is why it's called trapping and not catching.
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: jooleyen]
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06/04/22 12:09 PM
06/04/22 12:09 PM
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Buck (Zandra)
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No trap catches and holds 100% of them 100% of the time,especially if its a toe catch.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: Yes sir]
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06/04/22 01:16 PM
06/04/22 01:16 PM
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Two things I've learned. Always have the gun loaded and ready when I pull up to a set and always check the position of the foot in the trap immediately upon arrival. Yes Sir makes a good point. Especially on bobcats. Not going to ly. Had 1 last year escape from a MJ 600. Pulled up. Dead end road. Cat was jumping and flopping. Turned around at end of dead end road. Past bobcat. Again. Open tool box. Got choke stick. Reg say must release. And bam!! End of the 30 inch MJ 600 chain and gone. Didnt think -++ toe catch
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Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: Yes sir]
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06/04/22 01:41 PM
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Two things I've learned. Always have the gun loaded and ready when I pull up to a set and always check the position of the foot in the trap immediately upon arrival. Some good advice here! Also I prefer to approach the coyote from the down wind side when possible? Keeps them a little calmer sometimes. At the time 3Ns DLS where the best coyote trap made and they are still a good trap when you learn how to adjust pan tension on these traps. Not trying to start a Fight. But the modern Dogless #3 offset coil spring traps are a Better overall coyote trap IMO, Based on many catches with both traps. I am not saying sell your 3Ns! Just get better at setting & adjusting them. This will reduce toe catches.
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Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: jooleyen]
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06/04/22 05:11 PM
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It wasn’t the traps fault, those are good traps. Sometimes it just happens. Check your pan tension, in my opinion most toe catches are the result of pan tension being too light. If you need help raising the tension I believe there are threads in the archives about it. I forget the name of it but I like to file a v notch in the end of the dog and file the end of the pan latch to a point so it nestles into the dog notch. Takes some testing and filing but once it’s done it’ll fire nice and crisp with enough tension to eliminate a lot of toe catches.
Don’t lose faith in the victor 3n
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: jooleyen]
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06/04/22 10:25 PM
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Boco
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Animals will escape from any live holding device from time to time.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: jooleyen]
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06/05/22 01:49 PM
06/05/22 01:49 PM
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Bob
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If you’re finding dug up traps then you need to look at a couple things. Could be that your traps have been contaminated with bait or lure or some other interesting smell. Or it could be that your traps haven’t been bedded solid enough and the animal feels it wiggle under the ground and digs it up to investigate. Also, what are you using for pan covers? The stiffer the material the farther the animals foot can be from centered when the trap fires.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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Re: Coyote pullout before my eyes
[Re: jooleyen]
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06/05/22 05:25 PM
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Bob
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If you had lure bottles in the same bucket with traps you’re almost guaranteed to have contaminated traps. No matter how careful you are there will always be some lure on the outside of the bottle and cap. As far as the toe catch, if your traps are bedded solid, your ban tension is correct, you’re not using a stiff pan cover, the trap isn’t on a super fine hair trigger, then the only other thing it could be is sometimes, despite our best efforts, weird crap happens on the trapline lol. Sounds like other than the contamination you’re getting everything right, I’d just chalk it up to crap happens and move on. If you trap long enough you’ll have a lot weirder stuff than that happen lol
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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