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Re: Abortion conflict??
[Re: Posco]
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Seems to me the libs are doing all they can to reduce their own numbers... They're even protesting at the homes of SCOTUS justices to be allowed to do it.
Mike They're not smart enough to back down, Mike. Whatever they bring they bring upon themselves. It's not like they haven't been warned. We all thought the Chinese "one child" policy was a horrible thing. In recent years they have realized it was a bad idea too. Making copies of yourself is what wins the game... When you keep that in mind a lot of the laws in the Old Testament make more sense. Mike
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Re: Abortion conflict??
[Re: 2zwudz]
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05/07/22 06:07 AM
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J Staton
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^^^^
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Re: Abortion conflict??
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The women should have the right to decide what's best for her. Its NOT all up to her. She didn't get knocked up on her own.
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Re: Abortion conflict??
[Re: 2zwudz]
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05/07/22 08:04 AM
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For those of you that say life begins at conception, how many are working to ban birth control pills ? After all the egg gets fertilized it just cant attach to the womb. Conception DOES occur.
IF roe v wade gets reversed, what ever your views are on abortion you can work at the local level to influence law. That is a big plus IMO no matter where you fall on abortion.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Abortion conflict??
[Re: 2zwudz]
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What about the morning after pill? Causes an attached fertilized egg to be ejected from the womb. Essentially the same thing as the birth control pill. Should that be banned also? Should it require a trip to a family practice physician for a prescription or continue to be sold OTC?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Abortion conflict??
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For those of you that say life begins at conception, how many are working to ban birth control pills ? After all the egg gets fertilized it just cant attach to the womb. Conception DOES occur.
IF roe v wade gets reversed, what ever your views are on abortion you can work at the local level to influence law. That is a big plus IMO no matter where you fall on abortion. Many Christian based insurance companies will not cover bc pills for that very reason. That's a good thing, right? Shows they are walking what they talk, right?
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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Re: Abortion conflict??
[Re: 2zwudz]
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Yes bowhunter. You should stand up for your convictions
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Abortion conflict??
[Re: 2zwudz]
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In spite of Obama care people still get to choose an insurance company.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Abortion conflict??
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IF roe v wade gets reversed, what ever your views are on abortion you can work at the local level to influence law. That is a big plus IMO no matter where you fall on abortion.
And that is exactly how it should have been all along. I find no justification for federal government endorsement or funding of abortion in the constitution.
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Re: Abortion conflict??
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In spite of Obama care people still get to choose an insurance company. For now.
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Re: Abortion conflict??
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For those of you that say life begins at conception, how many are working to ban birth control pills ? After all the egg gets fertilized it just cant attach to the womb. Conception DOES occur.
IF roe v wade gets reversed, what ever your views are on abortion you can work at the local level to influence law. That is a big plus IMO no matter where you fall on abortion. You're incorrect Danny, as least as far as most common birth control goes. Birth control works in two ways... by preventing ovulation, and by thickening cervical mucus, both of which prevents a sperm from being able to attach to an egg. I'm no fan of PP but their website does give a good description of how the various types of birth control work. Almost all of them prevent ovulation, and when there is no egg released, it cannot be fertilized and therefore no conception occurs. So I support birth control 100%. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-controlThe morning after pill is a bit different. With it, conception DOES occur. The egg does get fertilized and the pill prevents it from attaching to the uterine wall. I think this pill should be limited to special cases, such as rape or incest.
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Re: Abortion conflict??
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I like babies. I like states deciding most issues. I hate the feds. I however adamantly support people having the freedom over their own lives and bodies--even if I disagree. What rights a fetus has is complicated, but I agree it has at some point, probably early, a right to be protected with exceptions.
I prefer a world without abortion. I also prefer a world where people take care of their offspring--that's a big ask and will never happen. Assuming all abortions ceased tomorrow, in nine months we would have plenty of unwanted babies in foster homes, orphanages or dumped on the street and/or really bad environments with their parent(s). The cycle will keep repeating.
The Pro-Life crowd needs to propose real solutions for handling these babies now that it looks like they are going to finally win a battle. Real solutions--not how it should work, because there is a large number of real losers in this country that are not going to act rationally or responsibly.
The act of abortion is really sad. Not committing the act has real consequences that have to be addressed too. Limited availability of readily accessible abortion clinics will also force some people to consider the consequences of their actions. Not one single human has a right to play GOD.
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Re: Abortion conflict??
[Re: 2zwudz]
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Limited availability of readily accessible abortion clinics will also force some people to consider the consequences of their actions. When Mom and Dad are at work and 15 Y/O Johnny and Suzie are "studying" alone in the house, lack of abortion clinics never enters their hormonally driven brains. Lots and lots of irresponsible adults in the world . You can't dismiss the common idea of MANY young women that think "I will get pregnant. He will love me forever then". We dont live in fantasy land. Kids are born into horrible situations even with legal abortion. It would be nice if we were working on alleviating that fact as hard as trying to ban or keep legal abortions.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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