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Lathe operators ? #7526397
03/12/22 10:07 PM
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Hay so question for guys who have or still do lathe work. How hard would it be to take a chunk of round stock cut it in half drill it out on one end so it can fit snug over a 1/2" fiberglass pole,say 3" or so and on the other end mill ( think that's the right term) a fairly hefty male thread then do the same to the second piece but make it a female that the other would screw into. All that then taper down the ends that slipped over the pole some so there not much of a ridger and a smooth transition. Would it be doable?

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526408
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Yes, the lathe is the only machine that can reproduce itself

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526427
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bore out the center to desired depth and use a reamer. You could take a tap and do your threads inside (female end) and then screw in a male adapter or whatever on the other end. The ends can be tapered by adjusting the cutter angle on the lathe.

Why cut it in half? I'm not following the half part, and if it's cut in half, its done after the lathe work.

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526490
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Very doable


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Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526576
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Piece of cake, Wolfie. The price of steel is ridiculous though. $10.00 a foot for 1" round stock out of the scrap bin. eek




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Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: chas3457] #7526585
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Originally Posted by chas3457
Piece of cake, Wolfie. The price of steel is ridiculous though. $10.00 a foot for 1" round stock out of the scrap bin. eek




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Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: BuckMink] #7526586
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
bore out the center to desired depth and use a reamer. You could take a tap and do your threads inside (female end) and then screw in a male adapter or whatever on the other end. The ends can be tapered by adjusting the cutter angle on the lathe.

Why cut it in half? I'm not following the half part, and if it's cut in half, its done after the lathe work.

We I'd need these to be two individual pieces ...wait many I'm not filling you because I'm thinking cut say a 3" section bore one ended do the scre part on the other then on the other piece bore one end then bore and tap the other

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526596
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Ok I think I'm following you... Lol to me it sounds like you just want a section that easily separates? Could take those two pieces and drill and tap on one end both pieces .. Put in all-thread on one with red lock-tite (that's your male section) and then the other section that's tapped, that's your female section that can screw on and off whenever you need it too. Just an idea. We have "knock-out" rods that we do that with at work. Lol not sure what you are making bud just trying to help with ideas. grin

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: BuckMink] #7526598
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
Ok I think I'm following you... Lol to me it sounds like you just want a section that easily separates? Could take those two pieces and drill and tap on one end both pieces .. Put in all-thread on one with red lock-tite (that's your male section) and then the other section that's tapped, that's your female section that can screw on and off whenever you need it too. Just an idea. We have "knock-out" rods that we do that with at work. Lol not sure what you are making bud just trying to help with ideas. grin

Yep ! Won't something that could be used to make a collapse able drowning rod ! You can order 5' 1/2" poles all day to your door for $20-30 shipped but anything over 10' is $120 or more ! Not to mention somone if use are in small truck or cars. The deal is though it has to be pretty beefy.thats why I'm wary about lock titine some all thread in. Not saying it won't work ! Not saying that at all ,just I've heard others try something similar with deals not purpose built for the task and it always fails. Think those are usually pretty thing die cast things. I think though if there was a fella who was good at lathe work and knew about beaver trapping you could turn something out that's thick enough not to bend or break with a beaver , have just the right tolerance to fit snug on a fiber glass Pole and be contoured right so some of the larger locks can still slip over it.

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526601
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Ok, Red lock tite, we have to heat it up with a torch to get the all thread out if we got any left sticking out because the all thread gets broken off in the press so I gotta drill it out in the lathe 90 percent of the time. I wouldn't hesitate one bit using it for your application after what I've seen with it. I would think it would be more than adequate for your application. But if anything could just weld the all thread on too. Light bead all around. It's just regular cold roll steel

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Actually jb weld, or whatever other stuff would work too. Not just lock-tite

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526647
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Why not thread the 1/2" rod with male threads and use one of these

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-1-Count-0-500-in-Zinc-Plated-Standard-SAE-Regular-Nut/3013471

Then drill a small hole and run a cotter key through to keep from backing off?

Heck of a lot cheaper smile

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7526665
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Use the the lathe to drill the holes into both pieces at desired depth. If using half in rod I’d go with at minimum a 1/4 20 thread. So you would need a .201 drill or num7. A 1/4 20 tap. 5/16 18 would be better you would need a .257 drill or F drill. And of course a 5/16 18. Seen this thread so figured I’d just do a example piece out of 1/2” I had laying around and some 1/4 20 thread laying around so I used that for the example. If I were to actually make it for a beaver drowning rod I’d drill my holes deeper and use a longer piece of all thread or a grade 8 bolt and just cut the head off. But use a normal starter tap just drill a 1/4 deeper then the desired thread depth your looking for this way you can skip the lock tite put your all thread in a vice with some brass jaw inserts and you can tighten the one rod down tight enough to where it’s starts to cut its on last few threads at the bottom of your thread depth where the starter tap quit threading if that makes sense no animal is going to unthread this. Then just screw your pieces together. Hope I explained that good enough. These photos are just a example I wiped up in a couple minutes on my lathe. Not what I’d actually use like I said longer threads and deeper threaded holes but for example here you go. [Linked Image]
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Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: The hammer] #7527181
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Originally Posted by The hammer
Use the the lathe to drill the holes into both pieces at desired depth. If using half in rod I’d go with at minimum a 1/4 20 thread. So you would need a .201 drill or num7. A 1/4 20 tap. 5/16 18 would be better you would need a .257 drill or F drill. And of course a 5/16 18. Seen this thread so figured I’d just do a example piece out of 1/2” I had laying around and some 1/4 20 thread laying around so I used that for the example. If I were to actually make it for a beaver drowning rod I’d drill my holes deeper and use a longer piece of all thread or a grade 8 bolt and just cut the head off. But use a normal starter tap just drill a 1/4 deeper then the desired thread depth your looking for this way you can skip the lock tite put your all thread in a vice with some brass jaw inserts and you can tighten the one rod down tight enough to where it’s starts to cut its on last few threads at the bottom of your thread depth where the starter tap quit threading if that makes sense no animal is going to unthread this. Then just screw your pieces together. Hope I explained that good enough. These photos are just a example I wiped up in a couple minutes on my lathe. Not what I’d actually use like I said longer threads and deeper threaded holes but for example here you go. [Linked Image]
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[Linked Image]

This is EXACTLY what I was talking about ! Thank you !!

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: fix it mike] #7527283
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Originally Posted by fix it mike
Yes, the lathe is the only machine that can reproduce itself


NO. A mill is the only tool that can reproduce itself.

Re: Lathe operators ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7527291
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No problem wolfdog91 anytime!

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