anger on the trap line!!!
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11/03/21 07:05 AM
11/03/21 07:05 AM
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lindner115
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So yesterday I pull up to a couple sets and see a hunters car there, no big deal. Then I see him, and I thought great it'll give me chance to introduce myself (its private ground which both of us have permission to use). As I get closer to him and my set, I see my coyote, the biggest male and most prime I've got so far, taking his last few breaths. His first words ( a 20 year old kid, old enough to know better) were ah, ah I shot your coyote, I didn't know how long you were going to be. He shot it with a bow and a mechanical with about a 1.5" diameter. I kind of got after him a little bit, calmed down, and he had a few questions so I explained a little trapping 101 to him, along with some sportsman ediquette. I actually really let him off easy. I'm still super (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) about it. Just what would give someone the idea that something like that would be OK? I'm gonna try stitch holes up tonight. You folks have any input or stories that have happened over the years?
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 07:18 AM
11/03/21 07:18 AM
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strike2x
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At least you got the coyote and a chance to confront the guy. Most of us don't get that chance and the trap is gone also.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 07:21 AM
11/03/21 07:21 AM
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jabNE
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Had a beaver like that once. Local bowhunter put down my huge snared beaver caught just off the dam he used to cross over the drainage ditch to his hunting ground. At least yours only had ONE "X" in the hide, mine was RIDDLED. Super peeved when I hauled it home to assess the damage.
Ive had so many coyotes destroyed over the years by hunters who for whatever reason couldn't resist the shot opportunity. Shotguns, high power rifles, you name it. Shotguns were easy to see what happened, always a few empties laying nearby. The high powers...some were close, some were not, but all left gaping holes.
Sometimes they would even take or smash up the trap after their deed to add insult to my injury. I still keep a flattened #2 long hanging over doorway of my skinning area. A constant reminder of how I need to hide sets from the road...someone who encountered my catch also didn't learn the woodsmonship ethics from their father, evidently. Couldn't steal my trap but did take the coyote in it. Lots of boot prints and spent .22 casings. I had just switched to earth anchors on cable because I was tired of stake pulling thieves. Judging from the multiple sets of tire tracks over my trap I can only imagine how many times he backed up and drove over my trap multiple times. I wish the dog or pan would have pointed up better and destroyed his tire, but unfortunately that wasn't the case. Mostly I hoped he did try to pull the trap first and maybe threw his back out, which may have caused him to use the truck instead. One can only hope, one can only hope... Was last time I ever trapped that farm. The landowner wanted me back but I couldn't take the losses and that was 90s when coyotes weren't worth a lot. Farmer said I was only one with permission. Didn't matter.
Jim
Last edited by jabNE; 11/03/21 07:25 AM.
Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy you a trapping license and that's pretty close.
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 07:40 AM
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yotetrapper30
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I think you handled it well. I see others would have handled it differently by trying to get him kicked off the land, calling the warden, etc. but your way makes the most sense to me. You chewed him out, but then took the time to explain trapping to him. Maybe your doing so will lead to him getting into trapping himself. But if not, at least maybe now he knows better to shoot someone's critter in a trap. I really don't think fur damage ever enters into hunter's minds when they shoot a trapped animal. I think they think they're doing a good thing by a) putting the animal out of it's misery and b) preventing it from getting out of the trap.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 07:41 AM
11/03/21 07:41 AM
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Buck (Zandra)
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I wish somebody would start a thread about catching thieves and the thieves getting their butt handed to them,I would but my stories all end with he got away......
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 07:41 AM
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I had a fox and trap stolen one time. It was on public land and it was always the first set I checked at 5 am (legal trap tending hours) so I couldn't figure out how someone got to it before me. Idiots being what they are, one of the local dirtbags was in the bar bragging about it and that they had spotted it...............wait for it..................while he was teaching his kid how to shine deer! I called the warden and he paid them a visit. He found my shredded fox pelt (they didn't know how to skin it), my trap.............along with an illegal deer they had shot that same night. I got my trap back, $20 for the fox pelt and they lost their illegal deer, rifle that they had borrowed from a friend and loss of hunting rights for several years.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: 160user]
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11/03/21 07:46 AM
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yotetrapper30
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I had a fox and trap stolen one time. It was on public land and it was always the first set I checked at 5 am (legal trap tending hours) so I couldn't figure out how someone got to it before me. Idiots being what they are, one of the local dirtbags was in the bar bragging about it and that they had spotted it...............wait for it..................while he was teaching his kid how to shine deer! I called the warden and he paid them a visit. He found my shredded fox pelt (they didn't know how to skin it), my trap.............along with an illegal deer they had shot that same night. I got my trap back, $20 for the fox pelt and they lost their illegal deer, rifle that they had borrowed from a friend and loss of hunting rights for several years. Now there's a story with a happy ending, lol.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: Buck (Zandra)]
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11/03/21 07:46 AM
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I wish somebody would start a thread about catching thieves and the thieves getting their butt handed to them,I would but my stories all end with he got away...... X2 Excellent 160!!!
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 07:50 AM
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They continue to do this because they get away with it. You allow it by not turning in law breakers, period.
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 07:59 AM
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I think it would be a great idea to install 1/2 hr or so of education about trappers into the hunters ed program....how not to mess with caught animals, sets, and how to release accidentally caught hunting dogs
2021 goals....make time to trap PROUD MEMBER WTA NTA FTA GOA SPORTSMANS ALLIANCE
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 08:05 AM
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Scott T
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Good job taking the high road. Now if it happens again……
Looks like he needs another year;-)
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Re: anger on the trap line!!!
[Re: lindner115]
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11/03/21 08:32 AM
11/03/21 08:32 AM
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YamaCat
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Looks like easy stitching. Shouldn’t be any fragments
Last edited by YamaCat; 11/03/21 08:58 AM.
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