Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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Who takes live rounds to a movie shoot, Reckon that's what Baldwin was thinking too? I don't see any way that the actor can be charged, based on what the press has posted online. It will probably generate some new OSHA regs and maybe new Union or Guild requirements but the prosecutor really has to follow the current laws and work with only the facts. What you guys are proposing is that there be a Gun Control Law that makes it a felony to hold a loaded firearm without first opening it. Or in this case each cartridge would have to be taken out and examined. Perhaps it should also be a felony to hold a firearm that you have not been government certified with?
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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You or I would be charged already....take that info to the bank.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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Treat every gun as if it's loaded. Yes he and several others should be charged. There were previous complaints of safety issues.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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cold gun????why in the world would there be a "hot" gun on a movie set......any of yous see John Wick?
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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"What you guys are proposing is that there be a Gun Control Law that makes it a felony to hold a loaded firearm without first opening it. Or in this case each cartridge would have to be taken out and examined. Perhaps it should also be a felony to hold a firearm that you have not been government certified with?"
Would you mind providing a quote?
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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probably a good idea to check a guns condition before pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger....
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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Tell him to look down the barrel next time to check.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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No immediate charges were filed, and sheriff’s spokesman Juan Rios said Baldwin was permitted to travel.
"He’s a free man," Rios said.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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If they hang Baldwin they would have to admit that people kill people, not guns. Nothing will happen. It will just be labeled a "tragic accident" and quietly go away. Mark my words.
The left will continue to double down on the actual gun being the problem and not the (literally, in this case) unhinged person behind the trigger.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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Sorry if this question is covered in another post. I did not see it. So I have actually 2 questions. 1…. Will Alec Baldwin be charged in the shooting death ? Like Manslaughter? 2…. Can the DA Charge him with Manslaughter or another crime even if the victims family does not want the DA to charged Alec Baldwin with a crime ? MD
1. NO! 2.Probably, but won't.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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Who takes live rounds to a movie shoot, Reckon that's what Baldwin was thinking too? I don't see any way that the actor can be charged, based on what the press has posted online. It will probably generate some new OSHA regs and maybe new Union or Guild requirements but the prosecutor really has to follow the current laws and work with only the facts. What you guys are proposing is that there be a Gun Control Law that makes it a felony to hold a loaded firearm without first opening it. Or in this case each cartridge would have to be taken out and examined. Perhaps it should also be a felony to hold a firearm that you have not been government certified with? I certainly hope this is not how investigations are carried out!
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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From everything I have read; Baldwin was acting. The gun was only a prop. It had supposedly been cleared by the time he got it.
Could he have checked it? Don't know. It, based on the time setting of the movie, was a revolver. Possibly loaded in sequence with different types of blanks for different scenes. In that case him checking it would result in destroying the sequence. A stretch? yeah, but, at this point we know crap.
Someone handling the props is to blame. Not some idiot actor.
Also, based on what I've read: A lot of the low budget crew was disgruntled. There is some possibility That accident could have been more than just negligence. I just doubt the moron Baldwin was smart enough to plot something that drastic.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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Depending on the NM's definition of homicide, I would venture to think he would be charged with negligent homicide at the very least.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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Keep in mind not only was Baldwin starring in it, he was also a producer. This was a real gun capable of firing ammo.
A movie prop is anything in a movie from decorations to costumes tools sets guns swords furniture cars clocks etc...
There's a show called Hollywood weapons Fact or fiction. A veteran puts various shooting scenes to the test. He goes to the "prop warehouse" where guns weapons explosives are stored. He talks with the main guy in charge to get said weapons needed for a particular scene. One episode I recently saw they showed thousands of real guns from flintlock to military machine guns. They also showed fake guns. The warehouse guy gave him a glock 19, a revolver and another gun to use.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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If it was Trump he'd have already been executed. Anybody who handled that gun should be charged. I've never heard "cold gun". Obviously it means loaded but unfired. I'll bet it got pretty hot after being fired. This is what can happen when Hollywood liberals/morons are allowed to handle firearms.
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Re: Will Alec Baldwin be charged ?
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The rules of firearms safety do not apply on a movie set. The actors do not need to be doing anything pther than what they are told to do with a firrarm. There is an armorer that is supposed to be in charge of the loading and condition of each weapon on the set. This is not the only time someone has died on a movie set. The rules of firearms safety apply wherever there are real firearms. Let them use fake guns or computer imagery, if they want to point them at people. Jim
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