Re: Coyote gland lure help
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Urine will not blend well with certain ingredients also, I find using a drill to mix a batch is important to get even amounts in those bottles to be consistent once it settles in the bottle or jars. Your going to shake the bottle before using it at the set so it’s still the same lure make up it might even improve it if the ingredients are attractive on their own or together.
You could try to thicken it with corn starch or a food thickener also to get a across the board even blend into one consistently. Lots of different outcomes depending on the base you pick and the antifreeze choice your going with, lots of the top brand lures separate on the shelf just try to get it mixed when bottling is the trick.
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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Un finished lures get gassy when still breaking down yes, but fresh glands when used are preserved with sodium benzoate to stop the breakdown process and gas issues not sure how that comes into play with spoonbill oil never worked with it.
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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Like Law Dog I've no experience with spoonbill oil, but gland lures I make myself with urine and fish oil together work fine. Trout oil, sun rendered salmon oil and pressed fish oils is what I use and they've given no issues. Just make sure your glands are preserved and stopped. I like trout oil the best of those mentioned by the way. Hope this helps you some.
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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Like Law Dog I've no experience with spoonbill oil, but gland lures I make myself with urine and fish oil together work fine. Trout oil, sun rendered salmon oil and pressed fish oils is what I use and they've given no issues. Just make sure your glands are preserved and stopped. I like trout oil the best of those mentioned by the way. Hope this helps you some. Oppossum1, that does help a great deal! Thank you! In fact, that’s exactly what I was hoping to hear, as trout was going to be my next choice. Matt
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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It occurs as a reaction that is within seconds of mixing a certain ratio of fats with oil or urine
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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I put up fresh glands a few years ago they came out like puddy I even put them in a blender still pretty thick but workable.
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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It occurs as a reaction that is within seconds of mixing a certain ratio of fats with oil or urine So would it be safe to assume that the reason it doesn’t happen with all fish oils is due to a lower fat content?
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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I put up fresh glands a few years ago they came out like puddy I even put them in a blender still pretty thick but workable. Did you have my luck making them into something usable?
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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Mostly happens with glands and urine but i have had spoonbill do it
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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You better have a transfer container handy once you have that reaction beginning to work. It can over flow a bucket quickly depending upon the volume that you have in that container to allow for such a situation to occur.
Just imagine how you add baking soda to water and see how it reacts. Urine and some oils will do the same. But that is how you learn for the next time. Bob, is there any benefit, in this regard, to the order in which the ingredients are mixed? For example, you can add acid to water but never water to acid..
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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I put up fresh glands a few years ago they came out like puddy I even put them in a blender still pretty thick but workable. Did you have my luck making them into something usable? They are usable just puddy like I was going for a cream that would be easier to work with at a set that was the issue. Just takes longer to get a gob on a stick to much or to little kind if problem I’ll try to blender them again.
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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Seldom Fales is the channel name.
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"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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Re: Coyote gland lure help
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Seldom Fales is the channel name. Thank you, Yes Sir and Seldom. Seldom, I’ve watched your channel quite a bit. I quite enjoy it. It’s very informative and interesting, to say the least. I understand why you don’t name the name of lures you test that only get mediocre responses at times in your area, but I do often wish you would name the names of lures that elicited great responses. I’d love to send you one I made and passed around a bit to test, but I’m sure you are overrun with those kind of requests! Thank you for the work you put into helping the rest of us understand “why” Matt
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