Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/15/21 04:35 PM
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Years ago, I remember hunting with a guide in MT. He said gunshots were like a dinner bell for a bear.
A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/16/21 06:29 PM
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Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: wadask]
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03/16/21 08:23 PM
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Not starting a fight here but i beat 95% including me would not be able to hit a bear in the brain at10 yrds in a 2 second charge. Yes probably complete a body shot maybe two if your lucky but your torn up before they die if they die. Anything more than the recoil of a 45 acp and you only get one shot the second round would be held next to the bears body if your man enough to hang onto the gun after the impact. And the investigation of a firearm being involved is almost not worth carrying a gun to avoid the legal matter. Thier is lots of recherché out thier by biologist that actually deal directly with this on a regular bases but its alway hard to overcome the ego of a man with a gun. LOL A solid hit anywhere is usually enough to turn them. Bears, and bear charges, in the real world are much different than those who havent experienced it probably think. Each case is different too. The last time I had trouble with a grizzly a young sow came from 350-yards away at a dead run. Wide open alpine country and I had a hunter with me at the time. I turned her at 40 yards with a shot in front of her so it ended well. A friend of mine followed a wounded grizzly into the brush a few years back. This fellow is extremely athletic and experienced in bear country. The bear was waiting, and got on him before he could get off a shot. He lost his gun in the scuffle but was able to scoot under a partially fallen tree. The bear tried to go over the tree, but because its shoulder was broken from the first shot, it couldnt make it over. My buddy escaped and the only injury he sustained, is one bite make directly in the middle of his back. Might be different in WY, but up here the majority of biologists spend most of their careers behind a desk. They would be the last group of people I would go to for advice on bears, or how to deal with an aggressive bear.
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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If you were carrying both on you, which would you use first? Let’s keep long guns out of it. A few tips from survival class. If a bear cannot be stopped with spray or gun and you are down try to keep presence of mind to focus on its eyes. Every predator, be it bear, man, shark, whatever, they all have one vulnerable spot. That's the eyes. A knife or gun is the best tool for the job. Putting (sacrificing) a hand or forearm up to take the bite & using the other to take out an eye with knife or gun is what can save your life in that situation. If you have handgun in hand with a bear on top of you focus gun under its chin or throat if eye is not poss. Of course keep firing or stabbing till threat is no longer. God forbid there is ever any escalation to that point. In ending, in brown bear country carry gun & fixed blade knife. Stay safe out there
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/16/21 11:28 PM
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If I am ever in grizzly country I'd have no problem keeping a can of bear spray close (so long as my .45 Colt was just as easy to grab).
I don't know crap about bears but I can tell ya a bear set on pushin you out of its feeding ground might be one thing but I would guess a momma who thought you had come by for her cubs might be a different kinda encounter all together.
I love when you guys post first or 2nd hand stories about encounters, I watch as many as I can on youtube or the TV but there is always a lot of hype and drama that I think could usually be left out. I might have ADHD too LOL
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: Oreamnos]
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03/17/21 01:09 AM
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Oreamnos Your guess might be a good one. Might be different in WY, but up here the majority of biologists spend most of their careers behind a desk. They would be the last group of people I would go to for advice on bears, or how to deal with an aggressive bear. Not in every state but IDT we have too look too far to find biologists who are gettin ever more political (I wont mention any wolf problem states yall know who you are and ya know I am right about this too unfortunately)
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
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03/17/21 01:17 AM
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My plans are to move to Montana and if a grizz or a moose is a coming at me he will take a .454 cassul to the face
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
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03/17/21 11:54 AM
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I always remember listening to Paul Harvey one morning when he was talking about some hikers planning to camp in Glacier National Park. They were told to carry bear spray and to wear little bells on their clothing to alert the bears a head of time that you were in the area.
One of the hikers asked the ranger in charge, "How they would know if they were in bear country?"
The ranger said when you come upon fresh bear scat, you would know there was a bear nearby.
"And how can you tell if it's bear scat?", the man asked.
Two which the ranger replied, "You can tell by the little bells in it."
A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
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03/17/21 12:11 PM
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I always remember listening to Paul Harvey one morning when he was talking about some hikers planning to camp in Glacier National Park. They were told to carry bear spray and to wear little bells on their clothing to alert the bears a head of time that you were in the area.
One of the hikers asked the ranger in charge, "How they would know if they were in bear country?"
The ranger said when you come upon fresh bear scat, you would know there was a bear nearby.
"And how can you tell if it's bear scat?", the man asked.
Two which the ranger replied, "You can tell by the little bells in it." "it smells like pepper and there are little bells in it" that's how I remember hearing it
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: yukon254]
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03/17/21 12:50 PM
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Older bears that are starving are the worst, especially in the winter. I ran into an old boar one fall while I was guiding. We were drifting in a boat with the motor off. Long story short, when the bear spotted us drifting by him about 20-yards from shore he didnt hesitate. He locked eyes with me, and came like a freight train. My rifle was in a case in the bottom of the boat. Luckily my hunter was a good rifleman. He shot the bear in the neck 10-feet from the boat. I won the buckle that year for that bear. It was the largest grizzly taken in Yukon that year. My rifle is never in a case now. Glad that guy was ready!
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Re: Pepper spray or pistols for bear attacks
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/17/21 05:37 PM
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Very cool pictures Yukon254, that picture of your dad is awesome. IDT if it is the way he wears his hat but he just looks like a man who would be handy with that rifle.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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