Re: Pull Outs
[Re: rpmartin]
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03/05/21 09:38 PM
03/05/21 09:38 PM
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Posts: 11,205 SW Georgia
Wanna Be
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You done good. You done real good. The performance of your traps were fine after that much rain. I hope folks can see how much the rain and wet soil slowed those trap just a little and that was light sandy soil. Those traps would catch and hold. Now try that in clay gumbo heavy soil, you will find the results are lackluster at best unless you have powered up to meet the conditions if that is even possible. I always like enough chain so the animal can make the initial jump to get the trap dug in on the paw and lock it in place before they start lunging. And making them step between the jaws insread of over them.
Thanks. Most of my sets use screen covering. Seems I catch more in our wet weather down here with those sets whether they be the actual Pipe Dream set, flat sets, or scent post sets. Then again it might just be the fact they are blended better. I was just using that to go along with the fact that most of my toe catches and possible pullouts are with dirt type sets and after a heavy rain. We can’t seem to get showers or a little rain. The last few storms that rolled through have dumped 2-4” of rain every single time. The traps weren’t covered with that much dirt initially, just water pushing dirt over them. I was just impressed with the equipment being 2 coiled and still performing. 90% of my sets out now are screen covered.
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Re: Pull Outs
[Re: Wanna Be]
#7205938
03/05/21 10:07 PM
03/05/21 10:07 PM
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Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,626 Flint, Michigan
bhugo
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Not an expert videographer, but here’s a video that shows what may produce a toe catch, pullout, or miss. You figure the dirt hole had 4+” of rain on it and a lot of dirt flowed over the trap itself. The feathers were all on the top side so the entire set had flowing/standing water. The first set was initially a true Pipe Dream set, but buried it after the fox was caught. Already went through 3 screens, lol. https://youtu.be/RavqBapLg_wPretty good video! 4 inches of rain is amazing.
Member MTPCA, FTA and NTA
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Re: Pull Outs
[Re: Wanna Be]
#7206274
03/06/21 05:02 AM
03/06/21 05:02 AM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 3,302 S/W Wisconsin
rpmartin
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You done good. You done real good. The performance of your traps were fine after that much rain. I hope folks can see how much the rain and wet soil slowed those trap just a little and that was light sandy soil. Those traps would catch and hold. Now try that in clay gumbo heavy soil, you will find the results are lackluster at best unless you have powered up to meet the conditions if that is even possible. I always like enough chain so the animal can make the initial jump to get the trap dug in on the paw and lock it in place before they start lunging. And making them step between the jaws insread of over them.
Thanks. Most of my sets use screen covering. Seems I catch more in our wet weather down here with those sets whether they be the actual Pipe Dream set, flat sets, or scent post sets. Then again it might just be the fact they are blended better. I was just using that to go along with the fact that most of my toe catches and possible pullouts are with dirt type sets and after a heavy rain. We can’t seem to get showers or a little rain. The last few storms that rolled through have dumped 2-4” of rain every single time. The traps weren’t covered with that much dirt initially, just water pushing dirt over them. I was just impressed with the equipment being 2 coiled and still performing. 90% of my sets out now are screen covered. If it were me here on out i would add some extra insurance as in go 3 or 4 coil. It would help speed those traps in the mud some and help with better lockup. Coyotes can be unbelievably fast and will show you every weak spot in your system then leave you with an empty set mumbling unpleasant words under your breath.
Life member, NRA, NTA, RMEF, Pheasants Forever. WTA,TTA,FTA,SA,GOA, member
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Re: Pull Outs
[Re: Wvpossum]
#7206693
03/06/21 02:03 PM
03/06/21 02:03 PM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,960 Northern Nevada
Bob
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If your traps are strong then proper pan tension and solid bedding will prevent 99.9% of pull outs. I very, very rarely have a pull out, maybe one every other season at the most, and it’s always because I didn’t take the time to readjust the pan tension on a trap after a catch.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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