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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7188413
02/18/21 07:11 PM
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AJE it would be nice to be able to contact concerned / affected land owners concerning this upcoming season wish the predation report provided that type of info. Might help connect trappers / hunters with land owners that have been really effected. Obviously I know why their info isn't tied to claims, before that's pointed out

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7188420
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Might be worth a quick try on Craigslist or Facebook. Might also open up a can of worms with anti's.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7188493
02/18/21 08:24 PM
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Moose yeah I guess id rather knock on some doors instead of dealing with internet trolls

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Scott__aR] #7188612
02/18/21 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR


Sierra Club submitted a brief supporting the WIDRN's request for a stay of the court ordered wolf hunt. Hunter Nation has until Wednesday to submit a response to the Sierra Club's brief. The appeals court will then consider all information and make a decision (politics driven no doubt) as to whether the lower court had the right to prevent a stay of its decision to force the DNR to manage the wolf population through the use of a mandated by law wolf hunt.

If the WIDNR and their partner Sierra Club prevail, the DNR will get their stay, the wolf hunt for this month will be put on hold and Hunter Nation can appeal to the WI Supreme Court. If the DNR and Sierra Club lose their appeal for a stay, the hunt continues and the WIDNR can then choose to pursue their request for a stay at the Supreme Court level.

Either way, the WIDNR uses Wisconsin sportsman's money against them in this fight and makes additional money in the form of fees from every application for the privilege whether a hunt occurs or not ... win,win for WIDNR.

It isn't just Sierra Club. HSUS & the Center for Biological Diversity were part of the Sierra Clubs brief. It says it on pg 1 of the brief that was used in the filing to the appelate court.

Apparently DNR thinks highly of input from HSUS. Maybe anyone can file a brief.

The NRB sure has been quiet this week

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: WIMarshRAT] #7189043
02/19/21 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
[Linked Image]

Based on the OR, it does looks like it is ok as long as hunting season is open(which it would be for coyotes), but I am not a lawyer and those rules are not the full regs.


I may be missing it but what if you have a coyote in a trap? Would you have to let it go and if not would you need a small game license to keep it? They always say this is a summary of the regs, but where are the rest of the regs and how can they enforce more than the make readily available. Sometimes I think they want to make crooks out of all of us.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189404
02/19/21 03:56 PM
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If this season happens, wardens are going to be brutal IMO. If not sure if legal, I would take the side of caution.

Here is one that has potential to trip up folks trapping together. You must be the one to set the trap. [Linked Image]



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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189430
02/19/21 04:31 PM
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I have no issue with that 1. Just only tag a wolf that ya trap yourself. That law makes sense to me. You can still have someone else check the trap, but you had better be the 1 doing the setting, touching, shooting, & tagging.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189451
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I got my CR's ordered. They are 10' long (that's the max allowed). I didn't ask for them to be 10', but that is the only ones I could find. I wonder if there's any advantage to such a long length

For a 10' CR, does anyone know how far out we need to keep clear to avoid entanglement? I could be wrong, but I think it's a 6' radius for 5' yote CRs.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189455
02/19/21 05:03 PM
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If your CR is 10 feet long, your area needed to keep free of entanglement will be close to 10 feet. Maybe you would be better off shortening it.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: 8117 Steve R] #7189466
02/19/21 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
If your CR is 10 feet long, your area needed to keep free of entanglement will be close to 10 feet. Maybe you would be better off shortening it.

That's what I was thinking too Steve.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189472
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Unless something changed that I’m unaware of.. I’m pretty sure those cables r illegal for Wisconsin, it states: no less than 5’ but no greater than 7’

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Crortvedt05] #7189485
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If you have 10 foot cables you better have 20 foot of clearance at the minimum. If you add 3 foot more for the animal past the cable restraint you could have 26 foot you want clearance. Not easy to find areas like that unless marshes, fields and field roads.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189516
02/19/21 06:46 PM
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Go get 'em boys!

Judge Panel: Brash, Dugan, Donald
Opinion: Memo Opinion
Decision: Dismissed Pages: 5
Order Text: IT IS ORDERED that the notice of appeal filed in appeal No. 2021AP256-LV is dismissed for lack of a final judgment or order. This court lacks jurisdiction over a direct appeal at this time. No costs to either party.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the petition for leave to appeal is denied. No costs to either party.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the conditional petition for leave to cross-appeal is denied ex parte. No costs to either party.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the motion for a stay pending appeal is denied as moot

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189558
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We're gonna need pictures, guys! Have fun!

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189572
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Crortvedt05] #7189573
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Originally Posted by Crortvedt05
Unless something changed that I’m unaware of.. I’m pretty sure those cables r illegal for Wisconsin, it states: no less than 5’ but no greater than 7’

The wolf law allows 10'. The minimum appears to be 48", not 5'.
The ones I ordered are 10', but 6 is an extension cable.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Fox Claw] #7189638
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Originally Posted by Fox Claw
Go get 'em boys!

Judge Panel: Brash, Dugan, Donald
Opinion: Memo Opinion
Decision: Dismissed Pages: 5
Order Text: IT IS ORDERED that the notice of appeal filed in appeal No. 2021AP256-LV is dismissed for lack of a final judgment or order. This court lacks jurisdiction over a direct appeal at this time. No costs to either party.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the petition for leave to appeal is denied. No costs to either party.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the conditional petition for leave to cross-appeal is denied ex parte. No costs to either party.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the motion for a stay pending appeal is denied as moot



Thanks Fox Claw. Put in for a permit and made a donation to Hunter Nation. You can get a shirt for your donation right now.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189673
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I just got this update from Skye. I thought I'd pass it along in case anyone is interested. I consider her the CR guru, and her Trap Shack Company is a great company. Ya can't beat great local service:

"We are making wolf cables this weekend to meet the new Feb 2021 wolf regs. We are going to sell them in dozens and half dozens. Let me know if you want me to reserve any for you before I post them publicly, since you asked first. They’ll be all the highest level equipment we are legally able to use. Thanks- Skye
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7189718
02/19/21 09:21 PM
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So I just read a report that as of Friday there were 20,000 applications for tags. I wonder how many of those winners in the draw will actually try and harvest a wolf.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: 8117 Steve R] #7189733
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
So I just read a report that as of Friday there were 20,000 applications for tags. I wonder how many of those winners in the draw will actually try and harvest a wolf.

Wow.
Good find.
I'll be really curious to see how many apply. A lot are probably just for preference points. The count wil probably climb after todays court ruling.

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