,That is what I was thinking. Sam Walton

Under the biden administration we will be lucky to be able to trap.

GROENY ROCKS !!!!!

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Walton Yes. Likely a better analogy

The idea of having a sale some where (in the US maybe) where buyers can attend in person sounds like a good idea but there are two problems - people and paperwork. Let me explain,

People - the FHA staff will have to travel to where ever the sale is held. Afterward they have to go back to Canada. With the Canadian borders closed, how do they do that? Quarantine for two weeks? Even with computer access in quarantine, there are some things that have to be done in person at their building.

Paperwork - FHA sells wild fur pelts, which are highly regulated. They can’t just load up the samples in a truck and drive across the border. Both Canadian and USF&W have to issue permits and inspect the goods going both ways. I remember watching them load the truck in Seattle to send goods back to North Bay after a sale. Everything was checked off as the pelts were loaded. When the truck was loaded, it was locked and sealed. Truck could not be opened until the seal was broken in North Bay by Canadian officials.

Keep in mind that it took the Canadian government over 2 months to issue CITES permits for goods that buyers bought at the August sale. The goods were packed and ready to go by late September. Permits were applied for. Permits were issued the end of November or the first part of December. Can you imagine the hassle of doing the paperwork to move the samples back and forth.

Even if they didn’t offer CITES goods - otter, bears, wolves, bobcat and Canadian lynx - there is still paperwork involved.

Based on the above information, it is my opinion that having a sale in the US isn’t practical.

I’m sure some of you - especially Dirt - will want to disagree, so go ahead, feel free to tell me why I’m wrong. I look forward to the “discussion”. It is snowing here, I have nothing better to do!!

So what you are saying is they have done this before. Good, then they should good at it.

Starting to sound like a half ...ed operation.

I sold through them once and wasn't impressed, but I wouldn't like to see them go away. The more the merrier!

Yes, they’ve done it before. Multiple times to Seattle. Multiple times to Helsinki.

But ALL of those times were under “normal” conditions. With all this COVID stuff happening, these aren’t “normal” conditions. Not even close to “normal”.

I doubt you read, let alone understood, my entire post. Just saying........

Groeny appears to be getting things done in Canada during these difficult times Just Saying..........

FHA is not a fur buyer-didnt you read Marks letter?They were formed by trappers for trappers because trappers were tired of getting ripped off by all the crooked buyers.

So Is the Cambridge WI FHA location the main shipping facility to move fur to Canada?
So when Greg Is shipping fur to Canada does he have all these government agents counting and sealing all the fur? Can't be that big of a deal If their busy and shipping once or twice a month.
Maybe It's more of a chore to ship It back out of Canada.

The same buyers are still buying that fur through the auction house and are probably still ripping off the trapper. And the auction house is getting their cut, LOL

"American Mink Exchange is a family owned business, operated by the Tax family, a family with roots firmly planted in the fur trade. Located in New York's garment district, "

Maybe their U.S. partners can lend a hand?

What’s funny is that some in the Tax family I believe broker wild fur too.

More years past often selling at the auction house-taking from the trappers in the process. They buy the junk there at the auction,saves the auction from having to burn it.

I get what you are saying WissMiss. Maybe a sale in the US isn’t practical. But I still think it could be done.

Non-CITES goods - Raccoon, beaver, muskrats, coyotes, etc - move much more easily between countries. There is still paperwork to do, but they don’t have to double check CITES tag numbers.

If you were able to look at the actual paperwork in Cambridge, I think you would fine they make 1, maybe 2, shipments of CITES goods, just before the auction. By sending all the bobcats and otter at once. It cuts down on the paperwork.

Having the depot in Cambridge, also can speed up getting non-CITES goods back into the US. Greg sends a truck load of raccoon to North .bay. That truck brings a load of beaver back for whatever US buyer bought them. Efficient and inexpensive.

Makes sense.

Yes Marxists everywhere are feeling the tingle running up their collectivist legs....

Yes thank you Red China for this massive massive disruption. They sure showed Trump how to get 'er done!