Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
#7153374
01/25/21 02:43 AM
01/25/21 02:43 AM
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Posts: 3,224 Midlands South Carolina
SGT. C
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The last two jobs i have done (1 is finished and the other I'm down to the last one) have involved dogs, kids , people fishing, people in jon boats, people shooting at them, people placing cameras in buckets on slides, four wheel drives, tractors, pvc pipe.
Both jobs have involved ponds of about 3 acres in size. I have asked both owners to keep pets, kids, adults, no extra activity, no shooting,excessive noises. But they don't want to listen. Today, the last owner told me he tripped every trap so he can allow his dog to run freely. I'm down to the last beaver and it is wise, it's been harassed and is avoiding coni's, all scents. So i have gone to blind sets, snares, footholds. But with this beaver, there is no set pattern right now. It's cutting branches everywhere and has avoided old slides and not creating new ones I caught the male the first night, but, i'm thinking the female is left and she's not stupid.I have explained to the owner to let her be and let the traps work, she will make a mistake. But with dogs, kids fishing, rowing around in boats, setting cameras in buckets on the slides, riding tractors and four wheel drives around the pond, and then setting off or fouling up snares with pvc pipe. And now his neighbor (the bucket/ camera man) has decided he will try and shoot it, he has a special light he said. It is frustrating. best part i guess is that I've been paid already, but i still have equipment and traps to get or re-set if no luck with shooting it.
The first pond (it's finished) i caught all with floats and all the way in the back of the pond where the dogs couldn't get to and it took 2 extra weeks for the last beaver to commit. Could have wrapped it up in a few days, found the bank den , but the owners dogs like swimming in the den area and the owners would not kennel the dogs.
I'm about ready to quit doing these type of jobs if people want to be stupid and make it 10 times harder. It pays well, but the liability and worry isn't worth it. Sarge
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I know a beaver or two, because I've seen a beaver or two
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: SGT. C]
#7153377
01/25/21 02:51 AM
01/25/21 02:51 AM
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Pilgrim22
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I’d personally tell the landowner, if you don’t let me do my job I’m outta here
Adam Matalavage
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: SGT. C]
#7153378
01/25/21 02:52 AM
01/25/21 02:52 AM
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Posts: 5,279 Lakeland,Minnesota
Bogmaster
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Sarge, I feel your pain. I turned down several Beaver jobs ,where potential customers couldn't or wouldn't do what I asked of them. If allowing their dogs access to the trappingarea,was that important to them,they could learn to put up with the beaver. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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01/25/21 11:21 AM
01/25/21 11:21 AM
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Posts: 2,963 Central Ontario, Canada
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If Someone, especially the client tripped my traps, that would be it for me. Agreed. Never seem to get around to it but I've often thought about creating a little pamphlet that includes the "dos" and "don'ts".
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: Crit-R-Dun]
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01/25/21 11:35 AM
01/25/21 11:35 AM
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Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 5,546 West Central MN
20scout
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If Someone, especially the client tripped my traps, that would be it for me. Agreed. Never seem to get around to it but I've often thought about creating a little pamphlet that includes the "dos" and "don'ts". I agree with you Scott, do this once and I wouldn't be able to get out fast enough! Crit, nice idea but people can't even read traffic signs. What makes you think they'll read your pamphlet? As frustrating as it may be, I would pull everything the moment they showed signs of becoming a problem. You are in a no win situation, of course they will speak bad of you so maybe they deserve a problem beaver or two. Frustrating but suggest you take their money and move on.
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: Crit-R-Dun]
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01/25/21 12:06 PM
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If Someone, especially the client tripped my traps, that would be it for me. Agreed. Never seem to get around to it but I've often thought about creating a little pamphlet that includes the "dos" and "don'ts". Most of the nuisance guys I know it's part of the contract before the job even starts about the trap tampering.
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: SGT. C]
#7153671
01/25/21 12:15 PM
01/25/21 12:15 PM
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Posts: 17,053 Fredonia, PA.
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I run into the same thing when I make K-9 sets. Farmers want the fox and yotes caught but want to let their dogs run loose. Then they get peeved if you catch their dogs. It's so bad in my area with dogs running around I have pretty much given up K-9 trapping. It's just not worth it.
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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01/25/21 12:16 PM
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You aint charging enough. $$ make folks get serious. This
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: SGT. C]
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01/25/21 12:22 PM
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I've had two cases that really were frustrating.
One was where beaver had built a dam and flooded the guy's hunting land. I set above the dam and told him not to disturb the dam. He forgot to tell his son who tore a big hole in the dam causing my traps to be high and dry. Since the beaver were new to the area, I knew there were probably only two. I caught one before the water dropped too much. But, the second one took over a week.
Another one was a township road with a plugged culvert caused by beaver. The first night I caught one beaver. After that I spent a week trying to catch the second one until a guy stopped and asked if I was trapping beaver? I told him I caught one the first day, but couldn't seem to get the second one. He said, "By Golly! I bet I did hit that one I shot at about two weeks ago!"
Most in this country have things people in other countries only dream about. Yet, they want America to be more like those other countries.
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: SGT. C]
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01/25/21 01:27 PM
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Posts: 12,640 South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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I just turned down a beaver job in an upscale subdivision. About 4 colonies in 5 ponds. Half to 3/4 million $$ houses stacked tight around the lakes and golf course. Wealthy residents. Castor mounds, lodges, and dams in back yards within 30 yds of houses. "Karens" walking dogs on leashes on every street. Residents and their kids riding golf carts everywhere. Golfers on every green within close view of every pond. Guy showing me around had to knock on doors to get us permission to walk thru yards to view the beaver sign. Says homeowner's association has notified all residents that a beaver trapper was about to remove beavers.
Sorry, but not this beaver trapper.
Major conflict and liability potential on this one. No amount of $$ would get me in there.
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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01/25/21 01:36 PM
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I just turned down a beaver job in an upscale subdivision. About 4 colonies in 5 ponds. Half to 3/4 million $$ houses stacked tight around the lakes and golf course. Wealthy residents. Castor mounds, lodges, and dams in back yards within 30 yds of houses. "Karens" walking dogs on leashes on every street. Residents and their kids riding golf carts everywhere. Golfers on every green within close view of every pond. Guy showing me around had to knock on doors to get us permission to walk thru yards to view the beaver sign. Says homeowner's association has notified all residents that a beaver trapper was about to remove beavers.
Sorry, but not this beaver trapper.
Major conflict and liability potential on this one. No amount of $$ would get me in there.
Wow! You aren’t kidding about the conflict that would occur.
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: SGT. C]
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01/25/21 01:39 PM
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Posts: 12,640 South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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Manager said if I had any problems with any resident to notify homeowner's association manager......YEAH, RIGHT!
Also said I should use air rifle to dispatch any live beavers. Not legal in Ga, must use .22 rimfire I explained. Can you imagine shooting a gun in these folks backyards? Good grief!!!
Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 01/25/21 01:43 PM.
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Re: Beaver trapping/ People don't get it
[Re: SGT. C]
#7153771
01/25/21 01:46 PM
01/25/21 01:46 PM
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Willy Firewood
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This type of job is mostly problem solving, people. management, preventing a public relations nightmare, and a bit of beaver trapping.
This sounds harsh and it is. I do not mean harsh to you - but harsh to the people meddling in your way. You need to charge MUCH more money and make very specific rules. When I do a job like that, the pond is closed to all other people and activities. I put up temporary fencing with 3-4” tape closing off the area. You need to control the situation. Take many photos. Use trail cameras everywhere. It can be done.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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