Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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"I refuse to give up a right for another right or privilege." Pretty simple quote to understand, more should live by it.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
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01/19/21 10:20 AM
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Reread what you wrote, great debater.
Take a class in reading comprehension.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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01/19/21 10:26 AM
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Your rights do not supersede mine or mine yours. Isn't this the argument made against your right to have certain guns? I know it is. BC for the win. Bruce, then you should be safe being in a "communist country" as so many claim.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: rvsask]
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01/19/21 10:29 AM
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Your rights do not supersede mine or mine yours. Isn't this the argument made against your right to have certain guns? I know it is. BC for the win. Bruce, then you should be safe being in a "communist country" as so many claim. No as I attend church and also own guns,hunt,trap,and fish
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: Blaine County]
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Finster apparently wants to ban alcohol, cars and guns. Your argument is one of a liberal.
Is alcohol regulated by government? Are cars regulated by government? Don't bother looking it up, I'll answer it for you. YES. Why? Because they are not a right. Nowhere in the constitution do you have a right to drive a car, a right to drink, a right to do drugs for that matter. These things, and many others are regulated because of their potential to inflict harm on innocent people. You don't want someone drinking and driving to wipe out your family do you? You don't want a 10yo behind the wheel of a car going down the road do you? I doubt it. Why? Because the effects of such actions can be devastating to innocent people. Now, what is more devastating in a society that hard drugs? Violence, theft, overdose, homelessness, plummeting property value, rape, murder, you name it. All of it rises exponentially with the use of hard drugs. To disagree would not only be dishonest but an outright lie.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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01/19/21 10:33 AM
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No as I attend church and also own guns,hunt,trap,and fish
So the people that are claiming communism in the USA are full of it then?
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: rvsask]
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01/19/21 10:35 AM
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No as I attend church and also own guns,hunt,trap,and fish
So the people that are claiming communism in the USA are full of it then? Why is it that Canucks have to intervene into things they know nothing about?
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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01/19/21 10:35 AM
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Communist is headed this way and will take our gun rights if it does arrive
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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Why is it that Canucks have to intervene into things they know nothing about? I'm just regurgitating what I'm trying to digest on here. And I do know about the legalization of marijuana. It hasn't changed life one bit except that I now see all sorts of people from all walks of life that i didn't know were closet criminals walk in and out of the weed store when I am on main street. Someone once said that you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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01/19/21 10:38 AM
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Like I said, he sucks at debate.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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01/19/21 10:43 AM
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Just more B.S. that is being pushed on us. JMO
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: Finster]
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01/19/21 10:49 AM
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Finster apparently wants to ban alcohol, cars and guns. Your argument is one of a liberal.
Is alcohol regulated by government? Are cars regulated by government? Don't bother looking it up, I'll answer it for you. YES. Why? Because they are not a right. Nowhere in the constitution do you have a right to drive a car, a right to drink, a right to do drugs for that matter. These things, and many others are regulated because of their potential to inflict harm on innocent people. You don't want someone drinking and driving to wipe out your family do you? You don't want a 10yo behind the wheel of a car going down the road do you? I doubt it. Why? Because the effects of such actions can be devastating to innocent people. Now, what is more devastating in a society that hard drugs? Violence, theft, overdose, homelessness, plummeting property value, rape, murder, you name it. All of it rises exponentially with the use of hard drugs. To disagree would not only be dishonest but an outright lie. By your own examples, alcohol and cars can cause damage to other people--yet are regulated, not illegal. Driving drunk is a crime. Driving high is a crime. The same analysis applies to someone using marijuana and driving whether marijuana, for example, is legal or not. As for deeming drugs illegal, that has worked great. All this country has done is waste billions of dollars fighting a failed drug war. Regarding the crimes some using drugs will commit, the same thing can be said for alcohol. For those ills that are not criminal, those already happen now. And, by the way, the Constitution does not list every right a human being has. Be careful giving the government the power to restrict freedoms you do not deem important. I promise you will hear that same rationale being used against you when restricting a freedom you do deem important (e.g. guns).
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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01/19/21 10:53 AM
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Right will always be right.Wrong will always be wrong.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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01/19/21 10:56 AM
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By your own examples, alcohol and cars can cause damage to other people--yet are regulated, not illegal. Driving drunk is a crime. Driving high is a crime. The same analysis applies to someone using marijuana and driving whether marijuana, for example, is legal or not. As for deeming drugs illegal, that has worked great. All this country has done is waste billions of dollars fighting a failed drug war.
Regarding the crimes some using drugs will commit, the same thing can be said for alcohol. For those ills that are not criminal, those already happen now.
And, by the way, the Constitution does not list every right a human being has.
Be careful giving the government the power to restrict freedoms you do not deem important. I promise you will hear that same rationale being used against you when restricting a freedom you do deem important (e.g. guns). So someone walking down the street with a pistol on their side is just as dangerous as someone high on cocaine?There are gradients of danger counselor. Unfortunately, lawyers can come up with lots of ways to generate more business. Imagine the business generated by more drug intoxicated people. $$$$$$$ That is not even remotely close to what I said.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: Blaine County]
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01/19/21 11:04 AM
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By your own examples, alcohol and cars can cause damage to other people--yet are regulated, not illegal. Driving drunk is a crime. Driving high is a crime. The same analysis applies to someone using marijuana and driving whether marijuana, for example, is legal or not. As for deeming drugs illegal, that has worked great. All this country has done is waste billions of dollars fighting a failed drug war.
Regarding the crimes some using drugs will commit, the same thing can be said for alcohol. For those ills that are not criminal, those already happen now.
And, by the way, the Constitution does not list every right a human being has.
Be careful giving the government the power to restrict freedoms you do not deem important. I promise you will hear that same rationale being used against you when restricting a freedom you do deem important (e.g. guns).
The constitution names rights that supersede government that are given to us by God. If you think that more rights should be named, you should try to get it amended. Talk to a real lawyer and have them explain that and what it takes. Since you are determined to muddy up the water by going off on tangents, I will indulge you for a reply. Now, although alcohol has it's host of problems. I will ask you to look at the stats. A user of alcohol is far less likely to be responsible for some heinous event or crime like, let's say a meth head or a heroine junkie. People can have a glass of wine or a few beers and be fine. How many people mainline or snort heroine or meth and go about their daily routine of contributing to society? I'm willing to venture a guess that per captia it's probably 1000 to 1 maybe even more. No one is restricting freedoms here. your "freedoms" stop when you and your actions impede my freedoms.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and 2nd Amendment ???
[Re: OhioBoy]
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01/19/21 11:04 AM
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You will have no “ rights” when the Nation is ran on feelings you already lost the 1st the 2nd will be next then the rest will fall. If you speak out you will be labeled a extremist domestic terrorist just watch the news it’s already happening.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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