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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Crit-R-Dun] #6907519
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Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
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We call them pickerel "slime darts" here and they are a nuisance.We actualy have a pickerel tournament once a year,,just to KILL a bunch of them off.The orientals wait at the weigh in station and take every one we bring in.


There must be some misunderstanding. Pickerel (or walleye) are arguably the most desirable and sought after fresh water fish for consumption you can get. Or are you referencing the chain pickerel?

Picture he showed was a chain pickerel.Thats the slime dart.Walleyes are VERY good eating.You guys need to stop calling walleyes pickerel.


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: upstateNY] #6907525
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Originally Posted by upstateNY

Picture he showed was a chain pickerel.Thats the slime dart.Walleyes are VERY good eating.You guys need to stop calling walleyes pickerel.


That’s a Jack, or also known as a Pike.


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907533
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Originally Posted by upstateNY

Picture he showed was a chain pickerel.Thats the slime dart.Walleyes are VERY good eating.You guys need to stop calling walleyes pickerel.


That’s a Jack, or also known as a Pike.


Yeah, Northern Pike in JP's second photo.

This is a Chain Pickerel:

[Linked Image]

The vertical black stripe under the eye is the giveaway, also the chain pattern on the sides.

[Linked Image]


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907550
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Thats a pike,not a pickerel.
A walleye is what greenhorns call yellow pickerel they also mistakenly call saugers walleyes also.

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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907622
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Call it whatever you want Boco but people who know the proper names of fish know it is a chain pickerel.


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907645
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And this is a walleye:

[Linked Image]

A smallmouth bass:

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A crappie bass:

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A rock bass:

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A largemouth bass:

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A striped bass:

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Have any cute colloquial names for them?


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907648
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I think thats what they call those little grass pike in England,also.
Must be a holdover from the colonists.

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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907674
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Do you have chain pickerel there Boco?

I didn't catch any in the lakes I've fished up there now that I think about it.

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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907699
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I have to say that Boco is "right". All of these names being thrown around are what is known as "common names". Common names are used by fishermen where they fish.
Yankees know what a bluegill is, and an Alabama cracker knows that anyone down his way who calls a brim a "bluegill" is a yankee. If you want to get along with folks when you are away from home, you might want to loosen up on your strict position on what is the correct "common name" of a fish.
Its no problem to mention in passing, what your people call a certain fish, but it would not be in your best interest to try to correct someone about what they call them.
Me personally, I choose to call a fish whatever name that will irritate whoever I am fishing with, but that's just me.

Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907726
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Big pike are Northern pike and little pike are grass pike or hammerhandles.I eat any kind of fish if the pickerel arent biting.
Out west they call pike Jackfish,I dont know what they call pickerel out west.

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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Boco] #6907762
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Lugnut is worse than fishing with a woman.
He changes clothes every time he catches a fish.

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Nice pics Lugnut! I never heard Crappie’s referred to as a Bass before.


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907826
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Boco- What do you call "saugeyes"...? You guys up there in the boreal probably don't really have them unless its an occasional real mating between the species. Our state is making more of them, they tend to do well in certain types of eutrophic lakes than either of the parent species do.

I don't think they have your "little pike" (pickerels) "out west" much, they're more of an Eastern thing.


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907834
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Never heard of them crossing,I think they spawn at different temps.
Saugers dont go over about 2lb max here.Yellow pickerel get up to 25lbs.Seen some netted at the fish market at 115 that were that size.
Biggest one I ever landed was only 16.I'm a river fisherman,not much for fishing lakes.
Lots of big ones hooked thru the ice on Big Ab in late winter.

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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: dkrug] #6907918
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Originally Posted by dkrug
Lugnut is worse than fishing with a woman.
He changes clothes every time he catches a fish.

Lugnut is actually a nice person. He owns more than one set of clothes. Carry on.


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Re: For the people that like to stare [Re: Jurassic Park] #6907931
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I decided to do a little homework to get the facts and all local names aside ( and I support the suggestion by Carl52: know your local names when you're fishing away from home), the "exos" family of species from largest to smallest include: muskellunge, northern pike, chain pickerel, grass pickerel and redfin pickerel. Walleye and pickerel are not related and it seems "yellow pickerel" is simply a local or other name for walleye. Walleye and sauger are not the same thing but are of the same family and closely related.

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Originally Posted by dkrug
Lugnut is worse than fishing with a woman.
He changes clothes every time he catches a fish.


It's the only sure way to get that fish smell off! laugh


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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Nice pics Lugnut! I never heard Crappie’s referred to as a Bass before.


Interesting. Now that you mentioned it I haven't heard that term in a long time. Used to call them crappie bass way back when we could catch them all day long on shad darts under bobbers.

Do you have the rock bass shown in one of my pics? If yes, what do you call them?


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Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
I decided to do a little homework to get the facts and all local names aside ( and I support the suggestion by Carl52: know your local names when you're fishing away from home), the "exos" family of species from largest to smallest include: muskellunge, northern pike, chain pickerel, grass pickerel and redfin pickerel. Walleye and pickerel are not related and it seems "yellow pickerel" is simply a local or other name for walleye.


Yea, I was involved in a survey of the lake I was fishing in Ontario back in the '90s and they (whatever you call the wardens) laugh used the same names for fish that we do down here.

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