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I don't really see why it's being turned into a black vs white thing, just seems like some bad cops, probably would of kneeled on anyone in that situation.
I understand the desire to take action, but I can't abide rioting. A lot of young men get a rise out of destroying stuff regardless. It isn't the way to make positive change. I don't know what is the way, but pretty sure it isn't breaking stuff and lighting your city on fire.
The problem is that people who have never been in that situation, who don't understand, think their inexperienced view point is just as valid and there is more inexperienced people than knowledgeable ones. Keith
Exactly. So take your own advice. Your personal beliefs are clouding your judgement. Have you ever been arrested? Have you ever even done drugs? Have you ever had cops lead you around while you were cuffed?
I can tell you from first hand experience that when they don't double lock the cuffs, they hurt like crazy. And when they pull your elbows together when behind your back, it again hurts like crazy. It is also pretty difficult and awkward to walk when cops are being rammy and dragging you around.
So, by the logic by some on here, anytime a person is cuffed they can be killed by police? Unbelievable.
I just watched that other video-the cop kept his knee on the guy too long. That did not look like proper police work.When he was in distress he should have given him a chance to comply with orders.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: MNCedar]
#6883855 05/28/2005:26 AM05/28/2005:26 AM
There's simply no justification for the blatant knee pressure on the neck area for an extended period of time, it didn't slip off the shoulder momentarily, it wasn't necessary because the officer was alone and feared for his life or grievous harm. Hand in pocket suggests he's power tripping. It's contrary to all police training and professional conduct. I'd be willing to bet the officer has a reputation for excessive use of force and may have been disciplined for previous incidents. We'll see what happens but in Canada he would be prosecuted criminally without a doubt.
Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: Miley]
#6883895 05/28/2007:09 AM05/28/2007:09 AM
On tv just now they showed 2 videos. First one was him standing on the sidewalk, handcuffed and cooperating. Then the next video he is on the opposite side of the police car on the ground.
Why don't they show the in between part? How'd he get from the sidewalk to over there on the ground, is there more video?
Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: hippie]
#6883899 05/28/2007:22 AM05/28/2007:22 AM
On tv just now they showed 2 videos. First one was him standing on the sidewalk, handcuffed and cooperating. Then the next video he is on the opposite side of the police car on the ground.
Why don't they show the in between part? How'd he get from the sidewalk to over there on the ground, is there more video?
That's what I'd like to know.
The first video showing his arrest and ending shortly after he stumbles and falls at the curb across the street is from a fixed camera on a business on that street corner. Why does that one cut off? Whatever transpired immediately after that is pretty important. The next video is from a handheld camera, most likely a phone, and George Floyd is on the opposite side of the cruiser with a cop kneeling on his neck until he is dead.
What the heck happened between those two videos and why isn't being published?
Eh...wot?
Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: MNCedar]
#6883909 05/28/2007:38 AM05/28/2007:38 AM
I ave never put myself in a situation. By passing a counterfeit bill he put himself in the situation. Ian in no way endorsing the use of excessive force in this case. Just have to say his bad and illegal activity started the encounter.
Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: Miley]
#6883920 05/28/2008:03 AM05/28/2008:03 AM
It doesn't look to me like the copper is putting enough pressure on the man's neck to cause serious harm to an ordinary man of his size and age. It also looks like part of the force of his knee is being applied to the shoulder and skull as well. If the guy can speak in short sentences, he is not having that much trouble breathing. But he sure looks like he is doped up really good on some kind of drugs or alcohol.
Nevertheless, when the cops put cuffs on him and take him into custody, they are responsible for his health and safety. I think a murder charge is ridiculous in this case. But the police definitely look like they are negligent in doing what a reasonable person would do to protect the safety of the suspect they had in their control.
I don't think anyone has all of the information yet. So, to start a violent protest before having all the facts is just plain prejudicial.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: Miley]
#6883962 05/28/2009:26 AM05/28/2009:26 AM
Why would any business want to build or rebuild in these neighborhoods. Wonder how many more cities will join the free for all fire sale. I know there was another post on here about the probability of another civil war. In my opinion it's approaching at a high rate of speed. What I don't understand is why residents of Chicago don't get their pantys in a knot over the shooting arcade going on there for quite some time.
Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: Miley]
#6884012 05/28/2010:28 AM05/28/2010:28 AM
Remember the movie Police Academy? Satire, sure, but, still demonstrates the mix of personalities that comprise a police department, or any other group.
So, what I can't understand is: In a group of four dispatched officers, there is not one smart compassionate person to recognize what was happening?
Besides the four officers, there ought to be at least a mayor, chief, Lt, Sgt, on the block. Some one supposedly trained these people.
In a course on Human Resources an instructor told us there should never be one person fired. It should be the offender, and the guy that hired him.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: Lugnut]
#6884031 05/28/2010:50 AM05/28/2010:50 AM
Christ , go on u tube and find the unedited video! It’s there. They out and out killed him .
I watched this five minute segment where they originally pulled him, another guy and a girl out of the SUV. None were resisting. George Floyd was handcuffed and walked across the street to and police vehicle where he either fell or as knocked down by a cop as they were getting ready to put him in the car.
There is a break in the video sequence then this nine-minute video showing the cop with a knee on George Floyd's neck for seven or eoght minutes until he dies and the EMT's load his lifeless body on the gurney. EMT's reported he had no pulse when they arrived and checked him.
What happened between when he fell and when he ended up on the other side of the car with a cop kneeling on his neck?
Why did the cop kneel on his neck for seven or eight minutes?
Why did the cop continue to kneel on his neck after he was unconscious and no longer struggling?
Why did the cop continue to kneel on his neck even after he was dead?
Thanks lugnut some only watched the final minutes of his life. The media didn't have to spin this one to see the wrong doing
Re: Minneapolis cops fired
[Re: Miley]
#6884058 05/28/2011:43 AM05/28/2011:43 AM
On tv just now they showed 2 videos. First one was him standing on the sidewalk, handcuffed and cooperating. Then the next video he is on the opposite side of the police car on the ground.
Why don't they show the in between part? How'd he get from the sidewalk to over there on the ground, is there more video?
That's what I'd like to know.
The first video showing his arrest and ending shortly after he stumbles and falls at the curb across the street is from a fixed camera on a business on that street corner. Why does that one cut off? Whatever transpired immediately after that is pretty important. The next video is from a handheld camera, most likely a phone, and George Floyd is on the opposite side of the cruiser with a cop kneeling on his neck until he is dead.
What the heck happened between those two videos and why isn't being published?
I'm guessing they don't have video that covers from the last you see him, after he fell and they stood him back up. You can see his head above the cop car that pulls over there in the way of the camera. His head starts bobbing then they stop the video.
The cops appear controlled and not violent to him, so something set them off.
How'd he get around to the other side of the cruiser?
