Re: Building a turkey gun.
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Have tried a lot of different types of guns, optics, barrels and chokes over the years but now I plan to build what I want just to see where it goes. I have a Remington Versa Max now that I really like but the trigger pull is that of a cheap derringer at 7-8 pounds. I added a Carlson turkey tube to the VM that throws a very tight pattern but free hand it’s tough to keep on target now with the heavy amount of trigger pull.
Just sent the trigger group to CO to get worked it sounds like they can take out the creep and cut the pounds of pull by 40-50% for $60. Briley makes a upgrade that could reduce it even more but it’s a target upgrade not sure it can take the pounding of a 3.5 turkey load over time the cost is $275.00 but they use my trigger group to do it, not wild about that. Might look into a 2nd trigger group.
Now that it shoots like a rifle almost I need better sights for it I added a Tru-Glo rear site that works well but they could be bumped when moving from set up to set up. Thinking about having a gunsmith add a screw or two to fix that issue for peace of mind.
Eyeballed a turkey barrel 22 inch to replace my 28 inch I have now but that’s $450 alone and needs to be camo dipped to match the rest of the gun so that is a $500-$600 barrel upgrade I’m to cheap for that. I cannot cut down my 28 inch barrel I’d lose the pro bore benefits of it then.
What have you guys done to your guns to make the turkey killers?
Good luck with your build! I hope you find a good set up that makes you happy. What I did to my gun to make it a turkey killer was, well... I found a turkey choke and load that patterned well out of my gun at 10-40 yards. I don’t shoot past 35 or so yards...
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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Sorry... get you some TSS turkey loads. You can shoot it out of anything and kill a flock at 90 yards. They literally come to you and jump in the truck before they die....
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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I say its about killing for most people. They want a trophy and game departments and others are capitalizing on that. If it was hunting that got people out they would not bring a firearm. They would bring a camera and hunt as many as they could get close to.
I don’t have a problem with trophy hunting until it interferes with me. Even fishing has become all about trophys. If you dont think so do a little research on Missouri River commercial fishing. No biology behind the restrictions only whining by sport fisherman.
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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At $10 a shot I’ll stick with lead shot for now It kills them just as dead at 40 and under, I like the edge of thick cover when I set up so lead works just fine for me. LOL
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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At $10 a shot I’ll stick with lead shot for now It kills them just as dead at 40 and under, I like the edge of thick cover when I set up so lead works just fine for me. LOL That would be for the 12ga. The patterns they produce would make you question any lead pattern. No problem killing at 70 yards. That is why most people shooting tss are shooting sub gauges such as the 20ga or smaller. Basically, your best lead load with your 12ga 3.5" load will be bettered by a 20ga 1.625 oz load with #9 tss. Let's put it this way: are you happy with a 1.5" group with your rifle at 100 yards? Or do you try for .75" groups or less?
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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28 gauge 2-3/4" 1-5/16oz tss9 at 40 yds full choke 10 gauge h&r 2-1/4oz copper plated 4s full choke 40yds these were shot at the same time from the same rest. i wouldnt use that 10gauge as a boat anchor let alone to wound a turkey. the 28 weighs less has less recoil and out preforms by a wide margin. i could fire both barrels and still not be kicked as hard. Did you try those shells in your ten? My tens won't shoot a full choke worth crap either. I use from a modified to imp. Cyl. For nice tight patterns.
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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At $10 a shot I’ll stick with lead shot for now It kills them just as dead at 40 and under, I like the edge of thick cover when I set up so lead works just fine for me. LOL Obviously you’re a state hopping turkey hunter. Tags, (especially nonresident) fuel, time, and everything else that goes into an out of state hunt, $10 a shell is a small part of the equation. How much you reckon avid bow hunters have in an arrow and broadhead ?
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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At $10 a shot I’ll stick with lead shot for now It kills them just as dead at 40 and under, I like the edge of thick cover when I set up so lead works just fine for me. LOL Obviously you’re a state hopping turkey hunter. Tags, (especially nonresident) fuel, time, and everything else that goes into an out of state hunt, $10 a shell is a small part of the equation. How much you reckon avid bow hunters have in an arrow and broadhead ? Old school I guess just not going to shoot that far anyways, it’s more about calling them into 30-35 yards then taking long shots.
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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Obviously you’re a state hopping turkey hunter. Tags, (especially nonresident) fuel, time, and everything else that goes into an out of state hunt, $10 a shell is a small part of the equation. How much you reckon avid bow hunters have in an arrow and broadhead ?
Old school I guess just not going to shoot that far anyways, it’s more about calling them into 30-35 yards then taking long shots.
Take it from someone that has shot more shot shells than most. The ammunition is more important than the gun. I would be willing to bet that my old truck gun (shown below) would kill every turkey I fire it at if the bird was within 30-35 yards. Shoot with those new super shells I might even be good to 40 yards.
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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28 gauge 2-3/4" 1-5/16oz tss9 at 40 yds full choke 10 gauge h&r 2-1/4oz copper plated 4s full choke 40yds these were shot at the same time from the same rest. i wouldnt use that 10gauge as a boat anchor let alone to wound a turkey. the 28 weighs less has less recoil and out preforms by a wide margin. i could fire both barrels and still not be kicked as hard. Did you try those shells in your ten? My tens won't shoot a full choke worth crap either. I use from a modified to imp. Cyl. For nice tight patterns. yes sir it is an h&r 10 with a fixed full choke. it has never shot great with any load. i dont need to shoot it and get beat up. i will shoot a small gauge and produce more than enough pattern to kill a turkey at 40. my point was bigger at always better
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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Did you try those shells in your ten?
My tens won't shoot a full choke worth crap either. I use from a modified to imp. Cyl. For nice tight patterns. yes sir it is an h&r 10 with a fixed full choke. it has never shot great with any load. i dont need to shoot it and get beat up. i will shoot a small gauge and produce more than enough pattern to kill a turkey at 40. my point was bigger at always better
I have had a few fixed choke barrels that did not shoot to suite me. I sent them to Briley and had tubes installed.
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Re: Building a turkey gun.
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Remington has a 22” barrel on sale with a turkey tube $375.00 sells for about $450 at regular price even more on aftermarket sites. If I don’t like it I can always toss it on Gunbroker and get my money back and make a few bucks to boot.
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