Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/19/20 11:35 PM
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Wylee
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Email sent from the last thread on this subject. I started trapping not long ago yet can’t imagine it being shut down in Oregon...or any where else for that matter. I’m sorry you folks are having to deal with this and likely have to again and again. From my point of view having lived in Oregon for 35 years, the state needs a massive political cleansing not to meantion cleaning up the other riff raff that now plagues certain areas.
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 12:52 AM
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Wylee
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Rockcrick you should put a stamp on that and mail it in!
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 01:10 AM
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DavidInMT
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I agree with Wylee... Rockcrick, please put that in an email to them. Those are very good points that need to be brought to their attention, and others here should emphasize those points to them too, please.
David
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 07:29 AM
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PineDoggin
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To whom it may concern,
Animal rights groups want you to incorrectly believe that a complete ban on beaver trapping on all National Forest and other public lands will singlehandedly and miraculously correct the multidimensional issues facing Coho Salmon populations in Oregon and across the west. I wish to firmly voice my respectful disagreement with the proposal to ban beaver trapping, using the support of scientific evidence, and recommend that you vote against banning beaver trapping in any area.
Beaver trapping is a regulated activity in Oregon which already allows for the scientific management of this keystone species by Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.
One only needs to look south to California to see that trapping bans will NOT correct Coho Salmon populations. For example, a 1998 ballot initiative in California banned leg-hold traps, conibear traps, and snares; thereby virtually eliminating the primary methods for beaver trapping. Yet, after 1998, scientific analysis of Coho Salmon populations across California reveals that their numbers did not miraculously or dramatically increase as a result of California's trap bans.
Therefore, scientific analysis of data available to date does NOT support an all-out beaver trapping ban to protect Coho Salmon populations. Please vote against banning beaver trapping, as trapping is already a regulated activity in the great state of Oregon. The bottom line is this: the push to ban beaver trapping is an animal rights initiative, not an environmental initiative.
Respectfully, Please copy and send in to help our fight against the anti's. Sent!
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 07:41 AM
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I sent it out yesterday and got a reply will forward it they stated.
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 08:06 AM
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Getting There
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I did not read all the post above. Why do you want to band beaver trapping?
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 09:38 AM
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RockCrick
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Rockcrick you should put a stamp on that and mail it in! Lol, I’ll be drafting a letter but just couldn’t resist a rant last night. I could go on all day how this is the most asinine proposal that the anti groups have ever put out in Oregon and they’ve had some really doozies. The bottom line is that this isn’t about Coho, it’s about making headway on their anti trapping agenda. If it was about Coho they’d be advocating for dam removal or fish passage construction at existing dams so Coho could access the thousands of miles of stream habitat that is blocked off by the hundreds of dams in the state. They’d be advocating for commercial ocean fishing restrictions. If they really wanted to help Coho they should be paying trappers to live catch beavers and relocate them to Coho habitats. They’d be paying timber companies to leave larger stream buffers on logging sites and then paying for willow plantings on those streams. They’d be advocating for more sea lion removal. They’d be advocating for more Coho reintroduction programs to seed streams that don’t have any Coho. Those are what a true conservation group would do to help Coho, but again this isn’t about Coho and it never was. I am still trying to figure out why Washington and California don’t have bountiful Coho populations since they have both restricted trapping for over two decades. It’s almost like dams, habitat destruction, sea lions, poor ocean conditions (food for Coho) and ocean commercial fishing is having a greater effect than a few beaver being trapped in public land. Why not ban beaver trapping statewide to save the Coho? Of course not, their previous anti trapping proposal a few years back was dead in the water when polling indicated it infringed on private property rights too much. And finally, with all of the beaver trapping that occurred in the 1800s, far more than today, why weren’t Coho wiped out then? Oh, none of the other factors negatively impacting salmon existed back then? It’s almost like beaver trapping isn’t the issue here...
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 03:19 PM
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tlguy
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The WI state flag has a beaver on it. We get the same garbage from liberal yuppies in Madison that try and ban beaver trapping just about every year saying they create marshes needed to filter water or something like that. Usually passes in our spring hearings that are open to public voting in that county.
Meanwhile APHIS kills beaver and otter hand over fist in direct competition with license buying trappers in other parts of the state in the name of preserving trout streams.
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Re: Oregon's trying to ban beaver trapping!!
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05/20/20 03:22 PM
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And here we pay guys 20 bucks a beaver to shoot them and provide proof with the end of the tail.
Last edited by rvsask; 05/20/20 03:22 PM.
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