The rate of recovery from this economic downturn cannot be predicted based on recovery from the great depression. Totally different factors leading into the depression than the current situation.

Well, lets hear your thoughts on exactly how you think we are going to recover then? I'm open to people with facts. Lets see what you think our recovery will look like?

Isn't 2016 an Obama year? Looks a lot like the greatest economy (2017-2019) in the history of the universe. Too bad it (obama's) was the worst.

At least in the case of Nebraska and Iowa, if you lost your job because of Covid 19, and are then offered your job back now that things are opening up. But you turn down the offer of getting your job back, you no longer get the special Covid 19 unemployment with the extra $600.

I have not read reports from other states, I've only seen the reports coming out of Nebraska and Iowa up to this point, but that is the way it is suppose to work.

The neighbors I babysit, who are retired and are recieving their government retirement checks still, told me they both got $1200 stay retired checks.

It makes no sense to try and compare this to the great depression, there is nothing to compare to.

In the great depression there were no jobs to go to for the unemployed. You can't fix unemployment is no one is hiring, and that was the case for the great depression. Because the great depression was economic related not virus related businesses closed over a number of years, so there was no businesses to hire people. It took a long time for new businesses come back and start hiring again. They didn't have a supply of current businesses waiting to start back up.

Here all the businesses were running fine, until the virus hit and many had to temporally close. They didn't close because they were going broke, that's the big difference. Once they start opening up, as many have and many more will in the coming weeks, the jobs will be there again for people to come back to. And as I said in the other post, if they want to sit around at home rather then work, they don't get their Covid unemployment.

Will some businesses not come back from this, sure there will be some, but then there are always businesses that are running on a thin margin and can't make it with a 6 or 8 week close down. There are also businesses that are fine in a good economy when people have money to spend. I'm not sure I'd call them non essential, I'd say they are more like luxury business in that they do good in good times, but if things go bad, they are the first businesses most people see as a luxury instead of a necessity. When I have some extra money I'll spend money there, but if things get tight, that's the first business where I stop spending money. Those types of businesses will probably not make it for 6 or 8 weeks either.

But for the vast majority of businesses they can handle a short shut down and be ready to go as things open up, with jobs available to those that lost theirs. Add in new businesses now that more and more people will not want to do business with China, and the job market has no reason not to grow.

Now if somebody says prove that, I'd say prove to me all the gloom and doom the media pushes about an economy that will take years to recover is true. The media has an agenda, they hate Trump, I don't have an agenda, I'm just using common sense, something that seems in very short supply now a days.

i’m not really sure what point everyone is trying to make. NYC appears to be the hardest hit with New Jersey coming in 2nd best. People are dying from a respiratory disease. Underlying conditions are being noted too. Quite frankly, as you age, everybody has underlying medical conditions. But the thing that seems to be killing them is a no-nonsense inability to breathe characterized by this virus. Realistically, at near 70, I don’t care how my death is recorded, if my wife takes me to the ER because I can’t breathe. And I don’t care whether they say I was over weight, had high blood pressure, was borderline diabetic and was going bald, as long as I’m counted as one who succumbed to covid-19 if that’s what I died from on the day I died.

Seriously, I don’t think this disease is being over-hyped at all. So what if 10,000 deaths weren’t attributed to the right category. I don’t care one bit. We have almost 1.2 million laboratory confirmed cases and 70,000 deaths attributed to one disease and that bothers me enough to stay away from other people. If you don’t want to believe this is serious stuff, so be it. But PLEASE don’t come over, stand close and act like this is no big deal. At close to 70, I don’t need your disbelief and to be exposed to what you may be asymptomatically carrying.

Stay inside your home teacher. Have groceries delivered. Leave them out in the yard in the sun for a couple hours before you bring them in the house. Wear a space suit and breathe sterilized air from a tank when you go out in yard. Nobody cares.


Just dont try and tell me how to live.

Overreact much.

I've read his post three times, and no where did he tell you how to live, he just asked those that don't feel this is a big deal to stay away from him.

I thought this is what us higher risk older people were suppose to do. Take care of ourselves and avoid others like yourself so you can go on with your life without worrying about spreading something to those of us at higher risk.

I don’t believe any of the count.

That's the problem. No one has any facts to support how they think this recovery will happen. It is pure speculation because we have not experienced anything similar to these circumstances before. But if you want my guess I'd say we will bounce back quickly, much faster than after the great depression, because much of what was there when this hit is still there to resume.

I agree that the precise number of deaths does not matter, 60 or 70 thousand it is still tragic. But are you saying you don't care one bit if the numbers are being intentionally inflated? I don't appreciate anyone trying to manipulate the public by altering facts to enhance some agenda.

Had a friend who died 2 weeks ago stage 4 lung cancer and his death certificate is covid .Ive been working everyday in the grocery business and if this virus is so contagious why aren’t all grocery workers sick? We are being lied to I bet the actual death rate is less than 50 percent of these numbers.In our county out of 800+ covid cases we have 50 deaths and 2/3 are from nursing homes.this was from our county health dept which by the way quit reporting where the deaths were coming from last week.It’s al b.s. in my opinion.

Governor's office came out today and said that MN will go from a 1.2 billion surplus in the biennium to a 2.42 billion deficit. Those number will be worse.


I think we need to cut all government employee salaries, cut their vacation, paid holidays, also cut their future pensions and the pensions of all retired government employees.

The states would open up in a hurry.

WI governor promoting cutting expense by 5%. Too bad it wasn't actually 5%, let alone the value it should be. Didn't take long to figure out the previous rainy day fund isn't going to be big enough.

I ran across an interesting video today. Curious to get your thoughts on it?

https://youtu.be/IsuCa6V7prg

I think its very obvious now Fauci is a quack.

There are an average of 7300 deaths a day in the US however because of this virus that number is currently 8300 a day?

Would that change how you feel about the seriousness of the virus?

According to the CDC’s website, in March 2020 there were a total of 193,000 deaths in the US. The average number of deaths in the US for March over the four years prior to 2020 (2016 – 2019) is 227,000. The difference between this year and the average for the past four years is 34,000. 2020 deaths are 85% of the average of the prior four years.

That can’t be, we are in the middle of a deadly virus sweeping the nation.

how many are just normal flu deaths being counted as covid.