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Marten Trap Check #6788898
03/01/20 05:54 PM
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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6789676
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Excuse the spelling but what is a carberine?

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6789775
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What is the purpose of making sets away from the snogo trail? I assume your on a registered line and no one else uses your trail. You mentioned your quota. Do you have to quit trapping marten, or any other species, when you reach the quota? Any repercussions if you don't catch the quota? Who, or what entity sets the quota? How many spare traps do you carry on your runs......since you don't take frozen critters out of the coin?
So........be honest with us Gibb............don't you miss be able to use footholds? What did you do with all the footholds you must have had when your socialist govt. decided you couldn't use them anymore? Can you give us an estimate, on average, what did it cost the serious trappers to retool to conibears when you were forced to?
I'm surprised you were able to afford to just go out and buy a new 900 ace snogo. That is around 10-12 thousand US here in Alaska. Is there a subsidy for trappers to buy a snogo? Certainly your not one of those rich people that socialist govts. love to hate? (insert humour please)!
mt

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: 080808] #6789944
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Originally Posted by 080808
Excuse the spelling but what is a carberine?

Just curious, are you kidding with him, or just didn't hear him right. If the latter he is saying carabiner, (clips). Just trying to clear it up for you, not being sarcastic.

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790008
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Was not kidding. Had never heard the term carabiner.

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790016
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I use them on all my small conibears.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790028
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We set away from the trail for exercize-so we dont turn into fat lazy americans.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790036
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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790039
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Thanks

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: Boco] #6790261
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Originally Posted by Boco
We set away from the trail for exercize-so we dont turn into fat lazy americans.


I just have to believe that in your semi socialist society Boco, there are almost as many fat lazy folks as there are here!!
mt

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: martentrapper] #6790294
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There is no better trap for marten then conibears period . Being in Washington state I’m jealous of your trapping in the north

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790335
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There you go! Right next to the trail I cut. No other users.
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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: martentrapper] #6790343
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Not according to google,again the US is number 1,lol.


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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: Boco] #6790351
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Originally Posted by Boco
Not according to google,again the US is number 1,lol.


As I said, ALMOST as many as here. But I'm skeptical that govt,s are able to accurately count, "fat lazy people". Does Canada require those people to register or something?
mt
Go wake up Gibb, Boco. Interested in answers to my other questions,
OH
Oh, Jake, was that statement based on years of trapping and lots of marten sets of both foothold and conibear?

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: martentrapper] #6790355
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Canadas not too good either were 40 on the fat list.Still better than number 1.
Somalians have the least bmi of all people,lol.

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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: martentrapper] #6790360
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
What is the purpose of making sets away from the snogo trail? I assume your on a registered line and no one else uses your trail. You mentioned your quota. Do you have to quit trapping marten, or any other species, when you reach the quota? Any repercussions if you don't catch the quota? Who, or what entity sets the quota? How many spare traps do you carry on your runs......since you don't take frozen critters out of the coin?
So........be honest with us Gibb............don't you miss be able to use footholds? What did you do with all the footholds you must have had when your socialist govt. decided you couldn't use them anymore? Can you give us an estimate, on average, what did it cost the serious trappers to retool to conibears when you were forced to?
I'm surprised you were able to afford to just go out and buy a new 900 ace snogo. That is around 10-12 thousand US here in Alaska. Is there a subsidy for trappers to buy a snogo? Certainly your not one of those rich people that socialist govts. love to hate? (insert humour please)!
mt


Is trapping your only income?


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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: martentrapper] #6790392
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Originally Posted by Boco
Not according to google,again the US is number 1,lol.


As I said, ALMOST as many as here. But I'm skeptical that govt,s are able to accurately count, "fat lazy people". Does Canada require those people to register or something?
mt
Go wake up Gibb, Boco. Interested in answers to my other questions,
OH
Oh, Jake, was that statement based on years of trapping and lots of marten sets of both foothold and conibear?

Yes it was ! over 30 years of trapping and yes the conibear is thee best trap for marten hands down in my opinion. But in Washington we have had to use cages only for s long time and they work very well but a 24 hour check time sucks you know what I miss being able to trap like the old days
Fat lazy Americans? Ehhh wrong every country has fat Milkers but not here

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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790570
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I think martentrapper is wondering how those Canadian commercial operations make money on $30 marten without using one of the above that cost a third (new) than the equipment being used?

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Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: martentrapper] #6790622
03/03/20 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
What is the purpose of making sets away from the snogo trail? I assume your on a registered line and no one else uses your trail. You mentioned your quota. Do you have to quit trapping marten, or any other species, when you reach the quota? Any repercussions if you don't catch the quota? Who, or what entity sets the quota? How many spare traps do you carry on your runs......since you don't take frozen critters out of the coin?
So........be honest with us Gibb............don't you miss be able to use footholds? What did you do with all the footholds you must have had when your socialist govt. decided you couldn't use them anymore? Can you give us an estimate, on average, what did it cost the serious trappers to retool to conibears when you were forced to?
I'm surprised you were able to afford to just go out and buy a new 900 ace snogo. That is around 10-12 thousand US here in Alaska. Is there a subsidy for trappers to buy a snogo? Certainly your not one of those rich people that socialist govts. love to hate? (insert humour please)!
mt

Ok hopefully I don't miss any questions
My machine cost me 306.00 loonies a month for 4 years, I generally run a snow machine for 10 years, love this 4 stroke Skandic but it is tipsy because I hate dragging a sleigh behind.
I started off using footholds for marten but would never go back. However I don't judge anybody who can. I generally have 4 spare traps of each size.I will take a frozen catch out of a trap if I can but not always possible.You get use to carry spare traps, the only pain for me is forgeting my trap setters I don't care for setting the springs by hand anymore.
The cost is like any trap once you buy them you get many years out of them, my Sauvageau 2001-5 are at least 20 years old, my Belisles are new about 4 years. I still use my footholds for spring muskrats and can use them for mink trapping.
No subsidies, I am a regular working guy and don't qualify for anything but paying to much tax.I am able to write-off the snow machine against my taxes.
Once a quota is filled you are done, in rare cases if the population is on a big upswing you can increase the # but I personally prefer not to deal with government and the red tape my quotas are high enough that I can manage my lines the way I want too.
Jim

Re: Marten Trap Check [Re: gibb] #6790632
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Our Socialist government gave us a 5 plus year phase in period to spread out the cost of re-tooling, This was way back in the 80's for my area and at the time the association for humane trapping would give you a 120 for every 2 footholds, When we made the jump from standard 120's to the more modern magnum or what we call the 3rd generation rotating jaw traps in the 90's most of us had already started buying the better traps so it was not much of a leap. For sure some of our older trappers did not like and do not like the 3 generation traps but that's like anything in life the older we get the less we want to deal with any change.
Jim

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