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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785705
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Huh?

Explain how the hat is not racist. That is exactly what I said above except this time I did not use a contraction

Re: How is this racist? [Re: walleye101] #6785710
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by MNCedar
Academically speaking, it would effective to state why it is not racist....



So academically speaking, everything is racist unless you can state why it is not?


Nope. I meant it the way I wrote it

Re: How is this racist? [Re: MNCedar] #6785712
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Originally Posted by MNCedar
Huh?

Explain how the hat is not racist. That is exactly what I said above except this time I did not use a contraction


A hat is not racist because it is a hat. Hats don't think so they can't have racist thoughts. They can't speak so cannot say racist things. The only message on the hat, Make America Great Again, makes no reference to racism. How's that?

Re: How is this racist? [Re: MNCedar] #6785713
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Originally Posted by MNCedar
Huh?

Explain how the hat is not racist. That is exactly what I said above except this time I did not use a contraction


Most ignorant statement I've seen in a bit .


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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785715
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I was more interested in the people wearing the hats instead of the literal hats. I didn't realize that needed to be clarified.

If no one is willing to admit that MAGA has been adopted by some as representative of reforms directed at people of color, then there won't be much of a discussion. By refusing to admit there is a percentage of people who think this way, there is nothing to talk about.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6785718
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted by MNCedar
Huh?

Explain how the hat is not racist. That is exactly what I said above except this time I did not use a contraction


Most ignorant statement I've seen in a bit .


How is that ignorant?

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785720
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I haven't seen evidence of MAGA hats being worn by racists.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785721
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its only racist because somebody said it is.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785722
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Its not rocket science.In the past america was racist.
The hat says that the past was great and they want to go back to that racist past.The hat doesnt implicitly state that but that is the extrapolation of how people who were victims of racism see the past.
That is how some people read it.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: MNCedar] #6785729
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Originally Posted by MNCedar
I was more interested in the people wearing the hats instead of the literal hats. I didn't realize that needed to be clarified.

If no one is willing to admit that MAGA has been adopted by some as representative of reforms directed at people of color, then there won't be much of a discussion. By refusing to admit there is a percentage of people who think this way, there is nothing to talk about.


So if I see a known Klansman wearing a KC Royals hat then I can assume those are racist too?

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785730
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So because some fringe group wants to adopt the hat as something hateful, then everyone that wears the hat must follow that fringe groups philosophy? That’s just stupid.

By that logic everyone that ever dressed as a clown must be a serial killer because John Wayne Gacy dressed as one and killed people. Anyone that wears a black beret is racist because some Black Panther wore one. The list can go on and on. A MAGA hat is not racist just because a few fools wearing it might be.


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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Boco] #6785736
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its not rocket science.In the past america was racist.
The hat says that the past was great and they want to go back to that racist past.The hat doesnt implicitly state that but that is the extrapolation of how people who were victims of racism see the past.
That is how some people read it.


So you're telling me that perceptions of racism are subjective?

Imagine that.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: MNCedar] #6785737
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Originally Posted by MNCedar
I was more interested in the people wearing the hats instead of the literal hats. I didn't realize that needed to be clarified.


You mean someone like Smollet?

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785738
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Re: How is this racist? [Re: ~ADC~] #6785741
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
How many of you wear a Trump hat? Besides me.



MAGA, and I'm no racist...


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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6785742
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Not to you only to those who suffered racism.Its like a slap in the face to them.
Wearing a hat that says the past was great (but the past was racist)-no way will they want to go back to that.They see people who want to make america the way it was in the past as wanting to return to racism.
Very easy to see their take on it, whether it means that or not to you, that is what it means to them.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Boco] #6785754
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Originally Posted by Boco
Not to you only to those who suffered racism.Its like a slap in the face to them.
Wearing a hat that says the past was great (but the past was racist)-no way will they want to go back to that.They see people who want to make america the way it was in the past as wanting to return to racism.
Very easy to see their take on it, whether it means that or not to you, that is what it means to them.


Sure, I get that... But it could also be interpreted as a call to when Americans overcame the obstacles in their way, persevered, and made their own way without expecting the taxpayers to take care of them.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785763
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When the POTUS before Trump said "Americas best days were behind them" was he talking about slavery? Sounds pretty racist to me. I'm all for keeping America great. Now tell me that racist also.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785768
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I saw a black guy wearing a MAGA hat, what a conundrum.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785769
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To white people americas past was gunsmoke,leave it to beaver and the brady bunch.
To black people americas past was discrimination,segregation and racism.
And never the twain shall meet.This is the third time I have explained to you in plain english why some people see the maga hat and the slogan on it as racist.Me being a white man have no problem with it.
If you dont get it why some see it as racist your awful thick between the ears.


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