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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710233
12/29/19 08:53 PM
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I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710235
12/29/19 08:55 PM
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Look at how many in the congregation ended up with their weapons out ready to take action. The volume on the video only sounded like one shot from the gunman and one shot to take him down. Impressive shooting on the return fire.

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710239
12/29/19 08:59 PM
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I counted 5 armed citizens

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Yes sir] #6710242
12/29/19 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
As religious persecution rises in this country the Church will become more of a target. For over 200 hundred years we have been a country of "in God we trust" but we are moving towards an attitude of God we hate.

A Sad state of affairs to be in


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710269
12/29/19 09:12 PM
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A lesson for security at Church, it looks like the shooter waited till everyone was praying to give himself an advantage . I dont think he would of got a shot off otherwise.

Last edited by Yes sir; 12/29/19 09:13 PM.
Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710281
12/29/19 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by adam m
I just watched the video. The only reason there is video is because the church live streams their service.

This is exactly why I sit in strategic places at church or any place I can pick where I sit. I have a habit of having my head on a swivel.

Finster I would say for sure less than 40'. Yup most church security is "undercover".

scroll down a little bit for the video in the link below

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...8rqzxoFuXlH9dyuK8Wun9u5ggK6WLS7SQUEZXwHQ

I don't know. if you look at the still photo, I figure the hero is probably around 6' ish. So if you would use him as scale, I would figure between 35 and 40 feet anyway. The pews are probably about 4 feet wide so you can use that as another scale. It would be interesting to know for sure. Most self defense shootings happen much closer than that, usually a couple of feet.

Second look I think you're right

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710289
12/29/19 09:22 PM
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That was quite a shot


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Yes sir] #6710309
12/29/19 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
A lesson for security at Church, it looks like the shooter waited till everyone was praying to give himself an advantage . I dont think he would of got a shot off otherwise.


Judges 7:6
And the number of those who lapped the water with their hands to their mouths was three hundred men; all the others knelt to drink.

May be a lesson there someplace.

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Foxpaw] #6710328
12/29/19 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Originally Posted by Yes sir
A lesson for security at Church, it looks like the shooter waited till everyone was praying to give himself an advantage . I dont think he would of got a shot off otherwise.


Judges 7:6
And the number of those who lapped the water with their hands to their mouths was three hundred men; all the others knelt to drink.

May be a lesson there someplace.

I like how you see things

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710376
12/29/19 10:09 PM
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Here is a link to a story that has a real life video of the church shooting. Thank God for the people who were carrying as it could have been much worse. https://www.dailydot.com/irl/white-settlement-church-shooting-video/


Remember "Forbidden Fruit makes many Jams"
Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710393
12/29/19 10:13 PM
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OOPS... sorry... didn't see the other link posted earlier. This is a tragic event for sure. But evil is everywhere nowadays.... We should be able to defend or at least have the ability to try to defend ourselves where ever we go.


Remember "Forbidden Fruit makes many Jams"
Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710412
12/29/19 10:25 PM
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Actually, the DemoRatic gun haters are coming out of the woodwork for more gun control because of this. Needless to say, none of them mentioned the hero that stopped it. What a bunch of idiots.


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Getting There] #6710432
12/29/19 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Getting There
Mike:
You are right, churches are not GFZ. In Michigan they are but the presiding official or officials of the church may allow concealed Carry.


I figured it varies from place to place.

It should be up to the congregation... Or the ONE in charge. laugh

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710435
12/29/19 10:39 PM
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That video is weird to me.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710438
12/29/19 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Actually, the DemoRatic gun haters are coming out of the woodwork for more gun control because of this. Needless to say, none of them mentioned the hero that stopped it. What a bunch of idiots.

Dont think they are gun haters, in fact they all enjoy armed protection. They hate the freedom that they give the people.

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Yes sir] #6710458
12/29/19 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Finster
Actually, the DemoRatic gun haters are coming out of the woodwork for more gun control because of this. Needless to say, none of them mentioned the hero that stopped it. What a bunch of idiots.

Dont think they are gun haters, in fact they all enjoy armed protection. They hate the freedom that they give the people.

Preaching to the choir my friend.


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710467
12/29/19 11:00 PM
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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710550
12/30/19 12:15 AM
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MSNBC and CNN will never cover this incident. POS stations!


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: trapper234] #6710571
12/30/19 12:44 AM
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Gov. Abbott signed bill to allow Texans to lawfully carry guns in churches in January of 2019 and went into effect on September 1, 2019.


Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710575
12/30/19 12:46 AM
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There is more EVIL in our government than in many other areas of this country. The most important item to me is... what was this person ideology and what is his nationality.

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