Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/11/19 04:58 PM
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conibearguy
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when your offering fur face to face and you think the price is low just say no. gather up your fur and go home. why does everyone always act like they were forced to accept an offer? when your offering fur face to face and you think the price is low just say no. gather up your fur and go home. why does everyone always act like they were forced to accept an offer? Also like mentioned about I have other buyers and for this reason I did NOT sell.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:13 PM
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Not any different than numerous NAFA threads. Never heard any whining about that.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:30 PM
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So If you don't think Groney Is taking advantage of the no NAFA venue then you were born at night and It was last night. Why do you think he's buying fur In Canada. And expanding his routes In the lower 48. Of coarse he's taking advantage of the situation why wouldn't he or for that matter any fur buyer would be all over It. If you look at the practical side of things In most cases groney Is the only game In town. I can hear the talking heads right know. Well you can ship to FHA or drive 100 miles to sell some where else or ship fur to a western sale. My point Is that's not very practical with this low market.
I'm glad I have other small market venues for everything other then my coyotes.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:34 PM
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We need some carpetbagging travelling Russian furbuyers doing the rounds,cut out the middlemen.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:34 PM
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Well the predictions (at least in Nebraska) have been correct about Groeny taking advantage of no competition. While I know the market is in the sh*tter on fur, I could believe the low prices. $2 tops on great carcass coon and $1.50 tops on carcass muskrats. Maybe that is good for your guys' areas but thankfully I have done some calling and found local buyers that are paying more. I am sure I am going to get roasted for not skinning my critters but being a teacher and a high school basketball coach, you hardly even have time to run a trapline let alone skin. Try freezing them whole and skin when you can. Don't you get a Christmas break? I had a job were I was on 12 hour shifts 5 days a week and sometimes 7 days during trapping season. But I still trapped and skinned. Had to cut back on number of sets. trapped small farms one at a time. I married a teacher so I know how long your day is plus practice after and then games. Heck Walmart says low prices every day but milk is cheaper at Kroger.. I'm going were I get the best prices buying or selling of anything. Not going to whine. Plus the local guy may be skinning himself to add to his profit. Oh yea how much more did you get from someone else
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:36 PM
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Some of my best fur years production wise was when I was working full time.It is all about managing your time effectively.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: Boco]
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12/11/19 05:38 PM
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We need some carpetbagging travelling Russian furbuyers doing the rounds,cut out the middlemen. How about some carpetbagging Canadians? LOL
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:41 PM
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Nah,Beav,we're just middlemen anymore too,its the Russians that are the end users of fur.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:47 PM
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My two cents. From what i have heard from friends and on here carcass animals are selling short everywhere. In my own market for example i have quite a few options to sell hides just not carcass unless its a coyote. Local buyers are not accepting carcass animals. I think colt furs route runners are taking carcass animals and they are partnered with groeny. Havent heard about their prices yet but i will find out. Main thing is the market is sketchy. In the buying and selling industry the risk comes in the product that takes more capital and manpower investment. If buying dried the risk is somewhat miniscule. On the carcass you need to skin flesh dispose of carcass and board and dry. All taking expense and increasing risk. I know we all have heard this and know this. Is it taking advantage to limit risk and lowball something you need to invest a bunch in and are possibly unsure of the outcome. That is where public opinion comes in. Groeny has been fairly open about the whole process. I have watched a few of his facebook videos and his interviews and his messages on here. He is filling a gap left by NAFA which is accepting product. He however is not an auction house and it is not known what his end market pricing or customers is. That is one thing folks may not like.
I will likely send my furs except coyotes to auction at FHA this year because they are seemingly pretty hard to get rid of in general. Meeting a buyer tonight to have them look at some of my putup furs but they are less than interested in them really. I think it is just the situation we are in. I am not going to go all out and go to several different folks and peddle my goods as there are not enough of them to pay the gas for more than one or two trips. Others may be in a different situation altogether and those folks warrant a different opinion i suppose.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 05:58 PM
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It's always a good time to be a trapper. It sets us apart form others in many positive ways I think. I hate the low markets for the folks that depend on hard work and fur for much of their income. Critters still need to be managed. Damage needs to be controlled, fun needs to be had, lessons learned, tradition passed on, friends to be made and time outdoors to be had.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: conibearguy]
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12/11/19 06:02 PM
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and if ya'll think Growny is the only one trying to take advantage of this i'm sellin bridges at below cost.
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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA
[Re: turkn8rtrapper]
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12/11/19 06:03 PM
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It's always a good time to be a trapper. It sets us apart form others in many positive ways I think. I hate the low markets for the folks that depend on hard work and fur for much of their income. Critters still need to be managed. Damage needs to be controlled, fun needs to be had, lessons learned, tradition passed on, friends to be made and time outdoors to be had. X2 Trapping is about getting out in the field.
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