Re: 6.5 creedmor
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To me the advantage of the Creedmoor is that factory rifles are being built with a twist rate that will stabilize the (heavy and long) high BC bullets favored for long range shooting. That advantage is not necessarily applicable to hunting situations, especially for women or young shooters who may be recoil sensitive. The Creedmoor has shown itself effective on medium game, as have the 1/2 dozen of similar sized cartridges listed in the above posts, but if the goal is to reduce recoil then using the heaviest bullets possible for caliber defeats the purpose. If you don't use those heavy for caliber projectiles, the Creedmoor advantage is gone. However, the Creedmoor doesn't have to be better that those other 1/2 dozen cartridges to be a good cartridge in it's own right and being popular, readily available, and inexpensive is not a disadvantage.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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11/30/19 10:02 PM
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I think there is a lot of overlap in cartridges. A cartridge that will insure complete pass through gets my vote. My grandson just shot a big doe in the shoulders with a .243 and it fell in its shadow at 200 yards, but did not exit. The rifle did its part more penetration would have been better. Bullet was 100 grain.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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Personally, I’m not enamored with the 6.5C like the rest of the shooting public. The 7-08 you mentioned would be my choice if I were going short action and not looking for a magnum. ^^what he said ! or the Roberts or Swede or 260! all mild recoil and deliver lead in that magically deadly velocity of 2600-3000 fps. These would be my 2nd, 3rd and 4th choices.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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I have a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmoor. The best shooting gun I own. Tight groups and for the price it’s unbeatable. I won one of these in a raffle so I sighted it in this fall. The thing pounds tacks at 300 yards and would likely do at even greater distances if I was some place I could of shot farther. Figured I should shoot a few deer with it before gifting it to my daughter and it performed flawlessly this fall.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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I am thinking it was the numbers that put people off in the past. To be more precise, the metric system. There is a whole bunch of old 6.5 mm rounds that will walk all over the Creedmoor but they have not had any success this side of the pond in the past or even now. 6.5 x 55 , 6.5 -06 6.5 A Frame, 6.5 Gibbs and the list goes on without even naming the obvious ones. It took some hard core marketing to get the Creedmoor where it is today. It is cheap to manufacture with the 308 as the parent case. I think it is here to stay. Not because it is so good, but because the marketing in this case just worked.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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one the son bought last week is a Savage i see on the box.he paid 300 from someone that won it plus the transfer fee.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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I am thinking it was the numbers that put people off in the past. To be more precise, the metric system. There is a whole bunch of old 6.5 mm rounds that will walk all over the Creedmoor but they have not had any success this side of the pond in the past or even now. 6.5 x 55 , 6.5 -06 6.5 A Frame, 6.5 Gibbs and the list goes on without even naming the obvious ones. It took some hard core marketing to get the Creedmoor where it is today. It is cheap to manufacture with the 308 as the parent case. I think it is here to stay. Not because it is so good, but because the marketing in this case just worked. The parent case of the 6.5 CM is the 30 TC. The parent case of the 260 Rem is the 308 Win.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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12/01/19 11:39 AM
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I have a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmoor. The best shooting gun I own. Tight groups and for the price it’s unbeatable. I won one of these in a raffle so I sighted it in this fall. The thing pounds tacks at 300 yards and would likely do at even greater distances if I was some place I could of shot farther. Figured I should shoot a few deer with it before gifting it to my daughter and it performed flawlessly this fall. I have shot it out to 550. No problem hitting 12 inch steel plate. Only misses were left and right because of strong wind gust (very windy day) only got to shoot this far 1 time. Was shooting with a friend on someone he knows land. I can only get out to 300 yards where I normally shoot. If you put the right scope on this gun it’s a great gun. I have a Leupold VX2- 6-18x40 CDS.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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I have a Browning A-Bolt in 30-06. I have a half dozen other rifles from 25-06 to 45-70. If I could only keep one it would be the aught six. It still shoots as far as I can see.
Zim the problem with owning an 06 first is that you never "need" another rifle. so it is important that you find excuses to buy more and not tie you purchase of guns to any sort of need. I think everyone should buy all the 6.5s they want , use any law-full reason you like as justification. sure it isn't doing that much that any other short action or long action cartridge isn't already doing but it does it in a nice little package. keep the rifle manufacturers going and shoot it a bunch it like the Precision Rifle competitors that it was built for they burn up a barrel a year or more some getting as little as 1800 rounds some getting as many as 2500.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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the closest route to make a 6.5 CM case is start with a 250 savage. so now you have an idea of the case capacity, it will do nothing any other 6.5 will do, only reason it is popular, is that the makers built decent rifles and made good ammo for factory loaded stuff. any good custom rifle with proper handholds will shoot circles around them. RR Actually, the 6.5 CM case is a tad shorter than the 260 Rem case, this allows the benchrest crowd to load heavier (longer) bullets and still fit in a standard DA magazine, whereas the std 260 case will not fit in the magazine with the heavier match bullets. This is the biggest difference. Also, my understanding from other reloaders is a 6.5 CM case can be made from a 308 based case using a two step process.
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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The benefits of the creedmoor is the long heavy high bc bullets. Nothing else with the fast twist barrels and throating required to stabilize the high bc bullets is or was available for purchase over the counter. Close range inside 300 yards mute point. Beyond 300 and over a 1000 is where the high bc bullets really shine. This round was built for the long skinny bullets the 260 rem and rounds others mentioned were not. Can. They be used? Yes but... they were not built for them. If you want magnum performance this is not the round for you. Deer will die with little fuss using the creedmoor. But The 6.5 PRC may be a little more your style. It does everything the creedmoor does, Just 200 FPS faster still in a short action rifle. If that is not for you one of the other wsm, saum etc rounds should work. God Bless
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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The parent case of the 6.5 CM is the 30 TC. The parent case of the 260 Rem is the 308 Win.
.308 Winchester Parent case to the following. .243 Winchester 6.5x47mm Lapua .260 Remington 7mm-08 Remington 6.5-08 A-Square .338 Federal 6.5mm Creedmoor .358 Winchester
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Re: 6.5 creedmor
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The parent case of the 6.5 CM is the 30 TC. The parent case of the 260 Rem is the 308 Win.
.308 Winchester Parent case to the following. .243 Winchester 6.5x47mm Lapua .260 Remington 7mm-08 Remington 6.5-08 A-Square .338 Federal 6.5mm Creedmoor .358 Winchester Check google. 6.5 creedmoor's parent case is 30 TC
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