Varmint rifle?
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220 swift or 22-250 wssm
Which one is more preferable? I handload so ammo costs are not a concern. I’m more concerned about barrel burning. While on the topic what about a 22-250 ackley improved?
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My choice would be the 22-250 AI ... that steeper shoulder angle helps a good bit as far as erosion goes.
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For strictly varmints the 204 ruger is a cool little round. I also like the 220 swift. The calibers you suggested are probably gonna be barrel burners. You might could mitigate that with powder/load changes but if you push em full power which is the point, they will have a reduced barrel life. Lots of powder in a small bore is the recipe for that.
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I'd probably go with the Ackley, if you have that choice. Just to be cool.
The Swift would be tempting too. I settled for the good old .22-250 and a .25-06.
If the WSSM is what I think it is (short, fat case), you could experience feeding problems, particularly in cold weather.
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I always wonder why speed is such a sought after trait in a varmint round. I found that loading a heavier, less frangible bullet at a lower velocity was more accurate and easier on the barrel and fur. I have taken a fair # of yotes with 22-250 rem using 60 gr soft points at 3400-3450 muzzle velocity. A bunch at 150-250 yards and one standing on the half mile line.
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love my 220 swift and no it's not a barrel burner, keep it clean and keep it cool will out last the shooter.
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Give me a holler if you go with the Swift. I know a guy.
Osky
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Stick with a regular old 22-250.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
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My choice would be the 22-250 AI ... that steeper shoulder angle helps a good bit as far as erosion goes. A good friend built one. Its a laser, he loves it. I've watched him make some awesome shots on coyotes. The AI gets my vote
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I have all manner of varmints shooters, and I just use my 204 any more, I don't need more than this and it's great for low recoil to keep on scope sight !! I don't think there is any better rifle for varmint hunting then a 204. Keith
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I'll be a kill joy my suggestion is to join the local gun range then post a notice that you want to try these caliber of rifles if someone wouldn't mind meeting you there then offer them a few dollars for the ammo you shoot. I've always been a fan of the .6mm and the .25-06 but we've got some nasty wind conditions at times out here.
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For strictly varmints the 204 ruger is a cool little round. I also like the 220 swift. The calibers you suggested are probably gonna be barrel burners. You might could mitigate that with powder/load changes but if you push em full power which is the point, they will have a reduced barrel life. Lots of powder in a small bore is the recipe for that. Ya crank it up an you’ll have that. I’ve heard the 243 catbird is horrible for it. I always wonder why speed is such a sought after trait in a varmint round. I found that loading a heavier, less frangible bullet at a lower velocity was more accurate and easier on the barrel and fur. I have taken a fair # of yotes with 22-250 rem using 60 gr soft points at 3400-3450 muzzle velocity. A bunch at 150-250 yards and one standing on the half mile line. I’m not after speed just distance. But your on my same way of thinking. A heavy bullet with a fast twist. Looking to be consistent at 400yds. Hence a heavy bullet to avoid drifting. I’ve taken a deer with 22 cal at half a mile an I’ll be the first to admit I never should have taken the shot. Much younger an had buck fever. It’ Hanging on the wall unfortunately not mine.
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That’s the other issue is price. Got the 220 still pondering on the other 2. The ackley was custom built. Barrel on it is long bull with a 7:1 twist made by a barrel maker in montana. Maybe someone knows him. Price is little more on that one
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I'd stay away from anything wssm unless you already have a good stock of brass!
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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I'm not known to be a rifle guy so my question may be stupid lol. Why not go with a .243? Seems like you have a wide range of loads from smaller critters to bigger game and the ammo is cheaper and available everywhere. Just a thought I had and hoping the rifle guys chime in.
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I'm not known to be a rifle guy so my question may be stupid lol. Why not go with a .243? Seems like you have a wide range of loads from smaller critters to bigger game and the ammo is cheaper and available everywhere. Just a thought I had and hoping the rifle guys chime in. I already have one. I also have 3 22 calibers a hornet at 223 and 22 250 Remington. Because I handload ammo cost isn’t a factor. I’m not even sure ya can buy 22-250ai ammunition at least I haven’t seen it. Either way I can load the 220 for bout 20% it cost to buy them or about the same as ya buy 223 for. Not meaning to be arguementative but what does it cost for a box of 243’s in your area? Ammo is high where I live.
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I'm not known to be a rifle guy so my question may be stupid lol. Why not go with a .243? Seems like you have a wide range of loads from smaller critters to bigger game and the ammo is cheaper and available everywhere. Just a thought I had and hoping the rifle guys chime in. Holy mackerel, but that's about the most naive thing I've seen someone say for a while! If you buy an all-round rifle, ONE rifle to do it all, then what excuse do you give the wife when you want to collect more rifles? Jim
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