Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
[Re: danny clifton]
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Scab. I don't agree with the political parties they support and made my stand very clear as a union man. Unions have done well for the Northern Ontario workers,provided us will good negotiated contracts and decent pensions and benefits. Unions have also saved companies that were being closed by fat cat greedy big corporations,by buying out the mills etc and keeping them open. Spruce falls in Kap is but one good example.It was bought out by the workers(unions)when the fat greedys said it was unprofitable.In a few years it was so profitable it was sold back to a private company at a huge profit,and dividends paid to the workers after the sale.It was all lies by the greedy fat cats who said it was unprofitable,the workers knew it and proved it., Years ago the companys were very good to the towns(employees) they operated in-supplying workers and materials to build water treatment facilities and hockey rinks etc. Even recently our railroad unions worked with management to restructure companys to keep them viable,and not put them out of business.Sacrifices were made on both sides to keep people working in good jobs,and the company viable. Unions here are not bad guys.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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09/01/19 03:06 PM
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I was union all my career,Does it have its down sides ,Of course !!! Protection of the non producer was my biggest complaint I have many retired friends who were anti union all their life They now live with NO pension and cant understand why I get it???? Im PROUD to be an Union member and supporter.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
[Re: danny clifton]
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09/01/19 04:19 PM
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I remember having to eat peanut butter and pinto beans for three weeks while my dad was not allowed on the jobsite because of a union strike. They lost the family van because they couldn't pay the monthly payment. Never worked for a union, never will.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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09/01/19 04:58 PM
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I remember having to eat peanut butter and pinto beans for three weeks while my dad was not allowed on the jobsite because of a union strike. They lost the family van because they couldn't pay the monthly payment. Never worked for a union, never will. Budgeting and saving money is a personal responsibility. Can't blame the employer or union for that.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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09/01/19 04:58 PM
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Seems to me you exercise your so called "right" when you decide whether to take a job or NOT in a closed union shop.
The name of the "Right to Work" law is purposefully deceptive to make people think they are being denied the right to work which they are not...They make the free will choice to accept a union position at the inception, or take another non union job...Take it or leave it, nobody had their arm twisted.
What the law really should have been called is "Right to work for Less" or "Union Busting by Deception Law" or "Have my Cake & Eat it Too Law" or even "Koch Bro's Special Screw the Workers Law"
At least then it would have been honestly named, and a spade called a spade. EXACTLY!! Union tinner
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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09/01/19 04:59 PM
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A law was just passed to bail out Michigan Teamsters pension fund by the taxpayers. All pensions are ponsi schemes and unsustainable and should be abolished. Just like social security?
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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I remember having to eat peanut butter and pinto beans for three weeks while my dad was not allowed on the jobsite because of a union strike. They lost the family van because they couldn't pay the monthly payment. Never worked for a union, never will. Budgeting and saving money is a personal responsibility. Can't blame the employer or union for that. How can you budget for something when you are prevented from going to work for 3 weeks?
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
[Re: danny clifton]
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09/01/19 05:20 PM
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Unions have there place, now today they have become somewhat outdated. Go back and stuck the steal, oil, rail, etc. industries and working conditions, deaths, pay etc. My father was a severe asthmatic and couldn't get a day off to go the hospital at doctors orders, or be fired. Unions worked for a livable wage, sick leave, vacation time, etc. Again today times have changed but unions do have their place.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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09/01/19 05:27 PM
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Working union is like making a deal with the devil. Make better money but sell your soul to the leftist/communist devil. Now the union bosses don't mind that this is happening. They're making a mint off the backs of union workers.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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FL Cracker.. it's called savings. Dave Ramsey has a good plan. YouTube him.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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FL Cracker.. it's called savings. Dave Ramsey has a good plan. YouTube him. Sounds good until life happens. My dad broke his back, was told he would never walk again, but after two years of doing his own physical therapy, he was able to go back to work. After a year back at work being immense pain every day, he was just starting to get back on his feet financially, when the union went on strike. Really took the wind out of his sails. If you've never spent all you have and was nothing bettered by seeing physicians, praise God. If you have, you'll understand a little better trying to get back on your feet.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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FL Cracker.. it's called savings. Dave Ramsey has a good plan. YouTube him. Sounds good until life happens. My dad broke his back, was told he would never walk again, but after two years of doing his own physical therapy, he was able to go back to work. After a year back at work being immense pain every day, he was just starting to get back on his feet financially, when the union went on strike. Really took the wind out of his sails. If you've never spent all you have and was nothing bettered by seeing physicians, praise God. If you have, you'll understand a little better trying to get back on your feet. Sorry for your dad's misfortune. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Best of luck to you and your family.
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Re: Socialist news agency surprise.
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Highlights from the 2018 data:
--The union membership rate of public-sector workers (33.9 percent) continued to be more than five times higher than that of private-sector workers (6.4 percent). (See table 3.)
--The highest unionization rates were among workers in protective service occupations (33.9 percent) and in education, training, and library occupations (33.8 percent). (See table 3.) --Men continued to have a higher union membership rate (11.1 percent) than women (9.9 percent). (See table 1.) --Black workers remained more likely to be union members than White, Asian, or Hispanic workers. (See table 1.) --Nonunion workers had median weekly earnings that were 82 percent of earnings for workers who were union members ($860 versus $1,051). (The comparisons of earnings in this release are on a broad level and do not control for many factors that can be important in explaining earnings differences.) (See table 2.) --Among states, Hawaii and New York had the highest union membership rates (23.1 percent and 22.3 percent, respectively), while North Carolina and South Carolina had the lowest (2.7 percent each). (See table 5.)
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