I dont know if this is right place to post this. I wanted to know if the lil grizz do r as good as other dog proof traps? I got a great deal on 4 dz . Just dont like the staking system on them. I thought about cutting old off welding a spike nail on them.

Don't cut them. They will work terrific as is especially in Ar where you don't contend with much frozen ground. Terrific traps!!!!

When I started trapping, Lil Grizz were AIHTS approved in Ontario and the Dukes where not... so I have some of each. Those Lil Grizz work better in soft dirt like plowed field edges, ditch banks, etc. (basically, I agree with ADC)
I also find them to be of excellent quality. If you got a good deal on a bunch then consider yourself lucky. I would not modify the stakes, take the money you saved and buy up some Dukes so that you have both staking options in the truck with you when you set.

Best DP by far imo.

I love the staking system; better than some of the others I've tried. IMO, they are the best dog proofs out there of the ones I've tried.

I hated the staking system as well as how quickly the triggers seize

Forget not that the "Li'l Grizgeterz" were the original, and they work fine just lay'd on the ground.

Grizz traps work great for me.

I was not fond of the seized triggers either so I modified them with long bolts going thru the trigger which puts two pivot points on the frame. I used lock nuts on either side of the trigger to eliminate any slop with the dog, which makes them fire much more consistently. They work great and never get jammed up.
While I did this and had the triggers off, I also modified them for push/pull.
As far as the way Griz getters are secured to the ground is concerned, I believe that solidly secured DPs is over-rated. Once a raccoon commits to work a DP, he won't quit until he tries to pull on that last skinny piece of metal inside, whether the trap is stuck in the ground, or on his his belly while he sits on the ground. In fact, I have seen videos of raccoons sitting like Winny the Poo with a DP in his lap like it was a bowl of honey. Christopher Robin, Eeyore, Rabbit, Tigger, Piglet, nor Owl where anywhere to be seen to help any of them to get out.

I picked some z traps , lil grizz and diablo too. I run most dukes. But the lil grizz for 5.00 each I couldn't pass up. I can modified to push/pull. And not have to much in them. I trap alot of creeks with sand and around field in bottoms. I will leave the regular stakes and try them. But add a extra swivel to each one. Thanks

It's not a STAKING system It's a stabilizing device. And the stabilizing device on the grizz sucks. Try and push that Into some hard clay ground. At least on the Duke and others you can with a little effort drive the stabilizer Into most types of soil.

No Grizz or its clones with whatever stabilization device it uses should never be drove into hard or frozen ground. The trap was not designed for that. The Grizz Trap anchor was designed for water trapping use along waterways and such. I personally never had a problem with the Grizz Traps "V" shaped stabilizer in any ground conditions. Simply use and adapt if ground conditions are not favorable for ground insertion. No reason to bad mouth the stabilizer if you use common sense.

Gary

Beav.. it's a support stake lol





The grizz is a pain to use in most areas here. Either ground is too hard or too sandy and it won't stay up . Common sense tells me to use the trap that is faster and easier to setup.

I've used them for years in all types of our soils, no solid rock. I've never had a bent stake or seized trigger. I think they are great traps. I sure have caught a pile of coon with them.

I trap around saltwater, so the rust hits the triggers pretty quickly. The mod which I described above has solved the issue permanently. They are easier to set too, because the trigger does not wobble. I should post a pic, but I am too lazy/ignorant to figure out how to do it. Someone else on this site came up with the same mod and posted pics of it. Maybe he'll chime in.

I never had one bit of trouble with stabilizing them either Gary. They work every bit as well if not better than any other stabilizing system out there, I've used about every single one of them. I do use common sense though.

Yep It's a great trap but not stabilizing friendly. With just about every other DP you can just drive a pilot hole and your trap Is stabilized.

One wack with a hatchet and you'd have a nice slot the griz would fit in too, not that anyone who ever used them much needed it.

As for freezing in, I just stick the stabilizer in the ground, DONT TURN, pull it back out, sprinkle some flake trapping antifreeze in the slot and re-insert trap. The Formula 1 pretty much protects the metal from the antifreeze and my traps are power washed w a hot water washer at the end of season.

Stabilizing DP traps is overrated anyway. They work just laying on the ground or hanging upside down. I bet a bunch of them are pulled from the ground before the coon even gets caught. Ever have a damaged paw in one? That is most likely because you had it stabilized too solid and the paw was damaged before he could get it pulled free of the ground. You can even lose coons to this. I saw a farmer wire some direct to a post = no swiveling = no coon.