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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: ] #6560035
06/21/19 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ND FTA
Yes I did, and I figured you couldn't answer with a simple yes or no. Having been at the very tip of the spear heading into Iraq, I will never, ever wish that on anyone else. Keep screaming for war on the internet, it doesn't really matter anyway.

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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560036
06/21/19 07:44 PM
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I think what complicates this is the fact that Russia has a treaty with iran ,,,,,,,,,,if iran is attacked.........Russia has their back. I do belive that if Russia wasn't in the background..........we' would have already made a move.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560037
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Sound decision maybe the drone was in free air space maybe not, I remember the Gulf of Tonkin and weapons of mass destruction. As far as picking on democrats there have been plenty that have gave all and plenty serving.

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560040
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Plenty have also imported muslims and let in all illegals that want to come.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560044
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Liberals are scared of violence and don't want anyone to have guns. Muslims and illegals love violence and love guns. How do you s'pose this is going to come out?


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6560046
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I know that’s a feel good moment but we wouldn’t be America if we didn’t allow them to say it. They don’t understand what saying that means because they haven’t experienced a lack of freedom.

The citizens that fight for the “Experiment” understand they may not see or enjoy the benefits victory provides but fight so future generations may.

[/quote]..................lol there is a difference between freedom of speech and terrrorst threats and violence! I hope you don't have to learn that the hard way.....most chanting death to America are not amercans even if there on American soil..... I am all for freedom of speech but there is a differance

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: KeithC] #6560058
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by gryhkl
Folks with heel spurs will be same no matter if we start something or not. And you can bet that no Trump, nor congressman or senator, will have to worry about their kid being delivered back to them in a bag.


You should look your "facts" up, instead of just continuously making them up, unless you just consistently enjoy spouting misinformation. The children of senators and congressmen are more likely to serve in the military than the children of the average American and are deployed to dangerous places and sometimes die too. To say otherwise is to dishonor their service.

Keith

How many have lost children in the wars since Vietnam?

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560071
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How many have lost family members to Muslim and illegal southern terrorists?


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560084
06/21/19 09:13 PM
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Our great country was built on the backs of soldiers. Every shred of freedom we enjoy each day here is because of the sacrifice they have made. The whole purpose of a strong military is for the protection of that freedom. We also cannot turn our backs on our allies, we're gonna need them at some point. To many people have been dumbed down from the last administration and I guess are ok with bengazi, and the likes. I don't understand? Yes I'm way to old to enlist but I would go if called on. I'd rather die for my country than than a heart attack or cancer.
Imo, by not fighting for what's right, we dishonor all those that fought/died for.

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: Gary Benson] #6560085
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Liberals are scared of violence and don't want anyone to have guns. Muslims and illegals love violence and love guns. How do you s'pose this is going to come out?

They've got that all figured out Gary. Sharing the whole pie equally and a hug to boot, the saying "why can't we all just get along" will be a thing of the past lol.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560086
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I did a brief search... The 116th Congress has 96 members with military experience... Roughly 1 in 5.

As far as members with children serving... I didn't find an accurate count.

Mike


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: Gary Benson] #6560106
06/21/19 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Liberals are scared of violence and don't want anyone to have guns. Muslims and illegals love violence and love guns. How do you s'pose this is going to come out?


Iran isn’t looking to invade. They’re looking for a way out of the sanctions. Best way to do that is emulate North Korea.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: white17] #6560109
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by 52Carl
So if Iran flew a drone on our east coast just outside of the international boundary, our military would not shoot it out of the sky?
We don't need to do anything but tighten up the sanctions and penalize countries who violate these stronger sanctions.
Let the Saudis battle with the Iranians. We have no interests at stake in this region any longer. We are energy independent.



It is in our national interest to stop or avoid a war in the middle east. All oil producing countries in the middle east, and Russia, want higher oil prices so war is actually in their best interest. The fact that we are energy independent means nothing. Oil is traded and priced internationally. A blockage in the Strait of Hormuz could send the global price of oil over $100 again. That would include OUR oil. Can you imagine what that would do the the global economy ?

Energy independence means EVERYTHING. If the price of oil goes up for ANY reason, it benefits the US oil production.
OPEC has been keeping oil production at a level which keeps the price of a barrel of oil lower than what the US can extract it at a profitable level via fracking (which is expensive compared to just pumping it out of the ground as in OPEC countries). I believe fracking becomes profitable somewhere around $70 a barrel. Once the world price of a barrel of oil exceeds that price, our oil producers will be rolling in dough. We will then become an even bigger exporter of oil.

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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560114
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
I did a brief search... The 116th Congress has 96 members with military experience... Roughly 1 in 5.

As far as members with children serving... I didn't find an accurate count.

Mike



Less than 0.5% of Americans serve in the US Armed Forces. Congressman are 10 times more likely to have served in the military than the average American. I have seen varying numbers by year, but in recent years, typically 3% to 6% of Congressman and Senators' kids serve in the military in any given year, which is 6 to 12 times the National average. Not all politicians are bad. Many are dedicated, patriotic people, who truly want to serve America.

There is also a myth that military members are poor and uneducated. The middle class makes up an over proportionate number of US soldiers, mainly because they love America.

https://www.cfr.org/article/demographics-us-military

My youngest first cousin, Wyatt, is a good example of the kind of recruits our military get. His father, my Uncle Bill is retired from the Navy. They are upper middle class. Wyatt started for his varsity highschool football team, all 4 years. Wyatt won his division at state in wrestling twice. He won at state at track too. He was offered college scholarships for football, wrestling, track and academics and took an academic scholarship to a good school. He has started for his varsity college football team both years too, as a linebacker. Wyatt joined and has excelled in the Army ROTC and plans on making a career with the army. Wyatt will be spending part of this Summer jumping out of and fast roping out of helicopters in Hawaii.

Wyatt could easily have a more lucrative, safer career. He has chosen to put his life on the line and serve America. I am proud of him and told him so when I last saw him a few weeks ago.

I would love to see him go on to serve America as a congressman or senator in the future.

Keith

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6560115
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by AntiGov
I say bomb anyone who chants " death to America " including all the anti Americans here in America.


I know that’s a feel good moment but we wouldn’t be America if we didn’t allow them to say it. They don’t understand what saying that means because they haven’t experienced a lack of freedom.

The citizens that fight for the “Experiment” understand they may not see or enjoy the benefits victory provides but fight so future generations may.




There wont be an America if we allow anti americans to prevail.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560118
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I'm more worried about Democrat leaders than anti American civilians.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560123
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Its the millons of anti americans ( liberals ) who vote for democrap leaders , that are the real problem


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560131
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We will never have peace with Iran as long as their wack job religious leaders are still breathing air. Not going to happen ever, they depend on chaos to maintain their control over their own people. I know it is against international law to kill the leaders of other countries, but these people need to go. I'd rather not see boots on the ground in another s hole country we don't belong in, but killing off the leadership by any other means I'm all for.

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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Its the millons of anti americans ( liberals ) who vote for democrap leaders , that are the real problem

Exactly!


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: ] #6560151
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Originally Posted by bleeohio
Our great country was built on the backs of soldiers. Every shred of freedom we enjoy each day here is because of the sacrifice they have made. The whole purpose of a strong military is for the protection of that freedom. We also cannot turn our backs on our allies, we're gonna need them at some point. To many people have been dumbed down from the last administration and I guess are ok with bengazi, and the likes. I don't understand? Yes I'm way to old to enlist but I would go if called on. I'd rather die for my country than than a heart attack or cancer.
Imo, by not fighting for what's right, we dishonor all those that fought/died for.


Yet out own government strips us our rights little by little and people want to fight other countries. Our country is great because the people. Our government can go fight it's own wars.

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