Need help, AR issues
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05/13/19 06:33 PM
05/13/19 06:33 PM
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Trapper Alex
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Hi all. I have my first AR build, and I’m stuck lol. After everything is put together, I was having issues with the bolt not going fully into battery sometimes but otherwise functioning properly. I switched to a stronger buffer spring, fixed the battery issue, but now the bolt won’t go back far enough to catch either the next round or the bolt catch on an empty mag. I keep adjusting the gas block more open, but I’m almost fully out and not sure if I’m missing something else I should be doing. Maybe a different buffer? Wilson combat barrel, adjustable gas block, Full auto np3 bcg, regular rifle buffer [img]http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Kitkat6174/media/FCC02E2D-11E3-4DA1-9409-BA8E88E7EA3C_zpsqp3dtr6c.jpeg.html][IMG] https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/...-4DA1-9409-BA8E88E7EA3C_zpsqp3dtr6c.jpeg[/img][/URL][/img] I apparently forgot how to post pictures, but the link works. That’s as far as the bcg will go so far. Bcg will catch but the bolt will not
Last edited by Trapper Alex; 05/13/19 06:34 PM.
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Re: Need help, AR issues
[Re: Trapper Alex]
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05/13/19 10:54 PM
05/13/19 10:54 PM
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Trapper Alex, it is very difficult to get a rifle length gas system to run in a 16" barrel, that is why most of the "dissipater" type rifles have a carbine, or mid-length gas system and a regular sight tower at the rifle position. With the adjustable gas block you may be able to get it to run, the problem with the rifle length gas system on a 16" barrel is the dwell time of the bullet in the barrel relative to the gas port, in effect it doesn't give enough back pressure to feed sufficient gas into the gas tube before the pressure drops as the bullet exits the barrel thereby causing the bolt to "short stroke".
If you go to heavier bullets, 75 or 77 gr, they may help the problem as the bullet velocity is lower but with the same volume of gas, so this in effect increases the dwell time relative to the bullet exiting the barrel. Thus "tricking" the gas system into acting as if the barrel is longer. Where the rifle length system shines in a 16" barrel is when a suppressor is used, the suppressor increases back pressure and the rifle length system works but reduces the over gassing issues with suppressed firearms.
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Re: Need help, AR issues
[Re: Trapper Alex]
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05/14/19 06:58 AM
05/14/19 06:58 AM
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topknot
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could be a misaligned bas block. its not getting the required pressure, to cycle the action from the sounds of it. If I recall Wilson uses set screws in their gas blocks, easy to have a little off. Also the adjustable gas system is junk.
Last edited by topknot; 05/14/19 07:00 AM.
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Re: Need help, AR issues
[Re: Trapper Alex]
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05/14/19 10:13 AM
05/14/19 10:13 AM
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sounds under gassed.
is it also dropping brass nearly at your feet?
is your adjustable gas block fully open?
do you see evidence of gas escaping from around the gas block? I have had a gas block from the factory not fully tightened and it walked forward and started causing issues. you can usually see the exhaust on the finish with a bit of carbon.
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