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Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6527377
04/28/19 03:47 PM
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i understand completely,only ones i kill are where they souldn't be or have done something they shouldn't have.new flagstone quarries attract them for some reason-i imagine the smell of fresh dirt,and they could eat a skidsteer in no time if left.funniest thing i ever saw was one that ate all the walls out of a small camp.they love that partical board.walking by you could see all the studs,the sink,and even the cots.was like someone went through and took all the sheeting on the outside off.worst i've saw is a quarry 8 miles back in that had damage to both my skid steers 3 days in a row requiring over an hour of time to run to town to have new hoses made before we could work.they like hydraulic oil i guess too cause thats what they always seem to get.









Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6527384
04/28/19 03:58 PM
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All the rodents like the glue in the older plywood.Porkys do a lot of destruction because of their size.Tin sheathing prevents that.
The newer plywood doesn't get chewed like the older stuff.
If you make a marten box out of the older plywood,some would be completely devoured by squirrels in a season or two.
They must use a different glue nowadays cause I don't see it anymore with the new plywood boxes.


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Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6527587
04/28/19 08:41 PM
04/28/19 08:41 PM
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Senseless killing of neat animals. Same as killing venomous snakes just because you can. Boco is right, they play a roll in the eco system.

Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6527594
04/28/19 08:51 PM
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Porcupines are valuable prey animals here for wolverine and coyote both, but especially so for wolverine. Other things play into it somewhat but generally speaking when the porcupine population is up, the wolverine population is as well. In my opinion around homes and farm animals they need heavy control and ones causing damage have to be dealt with, but out in the back country I think they should be protected, perhaps with seasons and bag limits but maybe even closed completely. They are poor table fare, but if you don't have any other meat then they seem a whole lot more palatable. When freshly killed, coyote and wolverine love them, but when cold and frozen they are useless as bait. So I will keep them thinned out around home, but out on the trap line I am glad to see them and would not shoot one unless I needed something to eat. But I haven't been that hungry for quite a long time now. I think they really are more valuable here as a prey species than most people realize.

Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6527684
04/28/19 10:00 PM
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Porkers have killed many mature Jack Pine in our woods. 20-30 at a time. Forester told me they can kill 100 a year. No other animal kills that many mature trees, with the exception of bugs and worms..


Kill everyone I see.


Their redeeming quality is that they make fire wood if you don't need saw logs.

Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6527694
04/28/19 10:13 PM
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And standing dead snags.


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Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6527725
04/28/19 10:49 PM
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Great for marten nesting.
Beaver are beneficial on the landscape like that also by flooding standing timber,providing standing dead timber that are prime nesting sites for all kinds of birds and animals as well,long after the beaver have moved on.

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Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6528039
04/29/19 12:49 PM
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Shoot on sight in this part of the world. 20 years ago they didn't exist here now they are everywhere. No one I know let's a porky walk. Too many vet bills tied to them and too many dead trees. My neighbor had me come over and catch one that was in her garage and insisted that it not be harmed. So I herded it into a dog crate and she called our local game warden. When he picked it up I asked him "what ya gonna do with it?" he said "give him a 10 foot head start and then a load of 00 buck I don't let them walk either!" Can't keep them out of coyote sets here but the bright side is they make decent cat bait.

Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6528043
04/29/19 12:54 PM
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Have a standing order from all trapline property owners to put them down. They are (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) on calves.


Antelope, the original fast food!!
Re: Porcupine [Re: Boco] #6528046
04/29/19 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Some don't think they have any purpose in the bush,but they do.Not saying they should be protected,if there is an overpopulation it wont hurt a thing to thin them out some.Likely will benefit the health of the pop overall.
A pair of leather gloves with a wide strip of porky tail velcro'd to the back might come in handy in a bar fight.


Use a strip on each sleeve, you only wipe your nose with it once.


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Re: Porcupine [Re: joepennanti] #6528059
04/29/19 01:21 PM
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" In the past I have used the meat chopped up into dice-sized cubes and mixed with glycerin for fisher. It works. "


The times that I have tried them for bait they were whole, halved, or quartered. I've never tried chopping them up and mixing with glycerin. That would probably make them more enticing but still doubt it would work as well as beaver.

Lone coyotes do kill them here. I've found a lot places they have done it over the years. Pretty much every coyote I get here has a few quills in them, and occasionally I'll get one that got hit hard. Same with wolverine.

Re: Porcupine [Re: AJE] #6560169
06/21/19 11:26 PM
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I talked to a WDNR forester. He said for unknown reasons, the porcupine population is noticeably higher this year.

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