I am Not a scope snob
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My budget is $175 .I want 4x12 with side focus (parallax adjustment ) I need the side focus . Not picky on the reticle or the objective lens size but want capped adjustment knobs .This will probably not be "known brand " but there might be a sleeper startup company ! signed skinflint
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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If I was hunting sheep in the mountains of Alaska or in the Rockies and expected a long shot in bad conditions, I understand buying the best, because if you have the money to chase sheep you can spend the money in most cases.
I was a Swarovski dealer for 8 years and never bought myself a pair, (wholesale being not much cheaper than Cabela's retail price in all honesty), as I never needed them. I do appreciate the difference at the highest level of optics, but I never needed it for the hunting that I did. I have some Nikons now that do everything I need. If I was a guide who had clients looking for horns, of course I would need the best.
God bless everyone who buys them and enjoys them. Good for the economy.
Twenty years ago I had the luck to sit next to Didier Swarovski on a plane in Argentina and smoke his cigarettes and discuss the optics business in the US. He was a very nice man and generous with his wine. He thought at the time that birders would spend more money than hunters for fine optics.
Pete
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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Big difference between cheap and quality glass you can't hit well if you can't see well!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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He thought at the time that birders would spend more money than hunters for fine optics. I'll bet they do.
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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Sorry, guys. In rifle scopes, like many other things, you get what you pay for.
A low-priced scope may suit the conditions under which you hunt, but recognize you could save up your money a bit longer and buy higher quality.
Jim
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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I like Vortex, Nikon and Leopold scopes, I also own a Burris M TAC on an LAR 308 and it is a nice scope. All have scopes in the mid budget like from 180 on up.
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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being that you want side focus bushnell and Athalon are about the only 2 offer side focus and that fit your budget if you would go front focus you could add Hawke to the list
if you don't need the focus and I haven't found a big need for it on My Vortex 4-12 then you could find something in a Nikon or Vortex
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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For 175 bucks, i would save up my money a bit more. I have done the cheap scope route for many years because it was all i could afford. I dont own any of those scopes anymore. The leupold vx freedom series would probably be about the cheapest i would consider, but they dont fit your specs. A low end burris or nikon as mentioned already would be looking into maybe. I would rather just shoot iron sights than waste money on a cheap scope though. Nothing but trouble.
"If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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I have 2 of the Vortex 4x12 with AO the are great for what I do except I have difficulty twisting the bell due to an old injury .Thats why I want the side focus. Thanks for the suggestions ,looks like I will try the Bushy ! I will let you know how the gophers like it .
You can ride a fast horse slow but you can't ride a slow horse fast .
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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I have 2 of the Vortex 4x12 with AO the are great for what I do except I have difficulty twisting the bell due to an old injury .Thats why I want the side focus. Thanks for the suggestions ,looks like I will try the Bushy ! I will let you know how the gophers like it . If daytime gophers are what you need it for, I less expensive scope will work fine. The high dollar scopes really shine in low light conditions, or looking toward a recent sunset.
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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Amazon . look for cvlife scope. For the price the glass is not half bad. Give them a shot if you wish.
You may think before you act. The question is did you listen to your own council?
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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I have a Bushnell 4-12 with the twist adjust ao it is actually the replacement for an early 2000s Bushnell 4-12 that broke after about 15 years, Bushnell honored their warranty and sent me the new scope when the old one broke
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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When you buy quality, you only cry once ! Well stated. After you shoot with a high quality scope, those tears dry right up and you are left with nothing but smiles.
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Re: I am Not a scope snob
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If I were you I'd buy a used Vortex as expensive as you can afford. Then, someday if you break it you get a new one
The beauty of the second amendment is it wont be needed until they try to take it. -Thomas Jefferson
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