Re: mexican troops cross the border
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The gaurd has unmarked vehicles?
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
[Re: danny clifton]
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Adam it is not uncommon for them to carry weapons and no ammo or no loaded mags in the weapon.
Something stinks. The federales should be in a U.S. jail right now. Or dead. Even Barnny Fife was allowed one bullet! Boss gives me a weapon with no ammo, I’ll toss and shoulder a broom! We are living in a bazzoro world.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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I just read several accounts from different sources( Washington Examiner and Briebert) and neither mentions anything about a diversion so the cartel could smuggle drugs as Fox News claimed. The NG members were on the south side of the border fence but still on US soil. The NG soldiers were conducting border support operation in an unmarked vehicle. After us soldiers explained they were on US ground they were released.
Did the Mexicans explain why they were there
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
[Re: danny clifton]
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The way I understand it:
They were in a dhs/border patrol unmarked vehicle. Left the vehicle to approach and were asked to put their weapons back in the vehicle. They complied and after a discussion the Mexicans went back to mexico.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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The gaurd has unmarked vehicles? Do you consider a vehicle just wearing gov plates unmarked ? If so , include the entire military in that list.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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Adam it is not uncommon for them to carry weapons and no ammo or no loaded mags in the weapon.
Something stinks. The federales should be in a U.S. jail right now. Or dead. Wow, that's nuts. What's the point of carrying with no ammo or unloaded? I agree the federales should be dead or in jail. Here is a link to why the military doesn't carry weapons on the southern border, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...noredirect=on&utm_term=.87a267baf1c0The Marines killed an 18 year old American citizen when they shot him in the back.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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Sure a lot of people getting their panties in a wad over nothing. Same people that complain that the Mexican government does nothing to stop the flow are now complaining about Mexican troops on the border. The guardsmen did the right thing, Mexico is an ally, you don't get into a firefight with your allies over something this trivial. No harm, no foul.
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Sure a lot of people getting their panties in a wad over nothing. Same people that complain that the Mexican government does nothing to stop the flow are now complaining about Mexican troops on the border. The guardsmen did the right thing, Mexico is an ally, you don't get into a firefight with your allies over something this trivial. No harm, no foul. The problem is you don't know if the Mexican troops are working with the government or the cartel ?
Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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Anyone that doesn't think we need a wall is a fool.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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I'd like to read the orders that were given for contact with Mexican law enforcement/military .
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Anyone that doesn't think we need a wall is a fool. Most people who say we don't need a wall aren't subject to the immediate consequences of not having one. Odds are, they'll be dead and gone or out of office before the effects are irreversible.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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All good comments. Here's what I don't get, if a fence or wall doesn't work, why do insurance companies require one around swimming pools if you own one?
Most in this country have things people in other countries only dream about. Yet, they want America to be more like those other countries.
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Sure a lot of people getting their panties in a wad over nothing. Same people that complain that the Mexican government does nothing to stop the flow are now complaining about Mexican troops on the border. The guardsmen did the right thing, Mexico is an ally, you don't get into a firefight with your allies over something this trivial. No harm, no foul. The problem is you don't know if the Mexican troops are working with the government or the cartel ? Well pointed out^^^^
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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The way I understand it:
They were in a dhs/border patrol unmarked vehicle. Left the vehicle to approach and were asked to put their weapons back in the vehicle. They complied and after a discussion the Mexicans went back to mexico. Seems reasonable
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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There's a militia here and they helped detain some illegals (over 100 in a group) until boarder patrol could come. Ther leader was arrested. 2 counties here have declared state of emergency and are pleaing with ther governor to send troops for help. She won't. One country is thinking of suing the state. Several checkpoints have been closed in order to help with the crisis yet the governor senators and congressmen say there's no problem. I've talked to people that have worked close to the border on pipelines, standing order was to cut the leads and and leave if a group of people was seen approaching.
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Re: mexican troops cross the border
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Adam, I was just trying to point out why our troops on the border are not armed.
I am one of those that is opposed to a wall on the whole length of the river. I would rather see law enforcement or armed troops on the border with the order to shoot if the illegals don't turn back. If the laws that are on the books were enforced on this side of the river all these people would not be pouring across our southern border.
An illegal detention center near me closed in June of 2017. It housed 1550 illegals that were serving time for illegal entry and then deported after serving that time. It was planned to be closed by #44 and #45 would not rescind the order and keep it open. Why ???
The man that was arrested by the FBI in Sunland Park for detaining illegals has been operating in New Mexico for two years. Why arrest him now ???
Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.
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