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the 8 dollar corn drove the farmers nuts.... they wipe out anything that wont grow corn..... burn the sloughs rip out the tree claim... tear out the fence row ... close the township road plow it up ... get more corn so we can fill the car with ethanol to get to town to see the move!!! not to say the car makes 10% less mileage so we are using as much or more oil anyway... biggest folly of our lifetime!

No grinners in ND, unless a few have managed to survive in the very se counties. There is a possum line that runs through north-east SD and across north-0f-central MN as far as I know. More grinners in se SD than ever in my life time.

ive seen 3 in the last 5 years im 40 miles south of nd border.... all hit on the road tryin to get across.. havent caught one in a trap but then im not the best trapoer in the world

Up to about 30+ a year here the more other things die off the more grinner you seem to get!

Brilliant !!

sound smuch like my youth..ahh memories

ive been a part of a lot of studies and with out digging thru paperwork, I think nest failings in good to ideal habitat was %80 .. foxes taking about 25% of them the rest made up of corvids badgers and weasel and stoat..and a pretty big % were take by hedgehogs...

vermin is vermin...... and birds don't like their company

Exactly.......What I was saying is that when the new biologist regurgitates the message that predator management is ineffective at improving nest success it is ok to be skeptical. Bounty systems may or may not be the best way to achieve that but let's not paint with too broad a brush.
Remember that where bounty systems are used they are often funded with game and fish revenue. It is no surprise that agencies competing for those same dollars tend to oppose bounties.

This program is paid for out of your license fees. NOT out of the general fund. So your trapping license pays for 3.5 tails.

The study above taking about trapping nest predators by Delta Waterfowl was concentrated trapping on blocks of habitat, not a statewide program. This program doesn't differentiate between high quality crp or a junkyard in the black hills. I don't think we'll see this program next year, pheasant numbers are going to be in the garbage despite tails being picked up from roadkill or being sent from out of state, despite the most honest trapping efforts.

Varmint control should be what trapping season is for anyways, I don't see the logic in tossing out coons/badgers and fox with the potential they have when fall comes around it's just a waste of a resource to benefit a invasive species that had no place to live anyways.

I have the edge of a lake bed behind the house that had 4 foot tall weeds that was covered by the snow drifting this winter. I doubt this will be the year to protect birds that won't even be there anyways could of been done better in a lot of ways.

sounds like peein into the wind to me.

Right up there with the jackrabbit protection act or the unicorn recover program! LOL

As brewer said Concentrated trapping is the key to trapping helping nesting. Trapping a few here and there just leaves more for the egg eaters that are left. You have to take pretty much every predator to make any difference. Taking a few predators is inefficient at helping the nest rate success.
Small grass does nothing for nesting birds over all. Delta drug road ditches on the blocks and never had a duck nest hatch. Large blocks of grass,a section or more untrapped, would have hatch rates as high or higher than the trapped small grass. Big blocks of grass is the key to success.
What changed in SD right before the decline of the pheasants? The amount of CRP. Do you think there was a predator explosion? You add that to all the cheating that will go on with a bounty system, and I can not see much of a chance for it helping.

i only have 50 acres but have been working the habitat thing for 3 years.getting rid of ironwood and other junk so the thornapples and nut trees can produce.also planted a bird mix on a 3 acre piece and the increase in the grouse and bird populations has been staggering to me to see.

I drove 140 miles today from Clark to Aberdeen and saw 3 coons and 1 skunk. I was shocked they all still had their tails intact.

Went to Flandreau and back Thursday-Friday drove by $100 worth of tails, made me laugh I bet the Troopers are primed to hand out non-emergency stopping on the Interstate tickets for "tail poachers"! LOL

Come April I am thinking I might embrace the plan and hammer the grinners, coons and I'll be skunking anyways but now I can set those grinner looking spots and average $10 per critter that's just nuts.

I know you guys make such statements mostly in jest but anybody really considering (most dumb people aren't on tman but maybe warn someone if you hear them talk such "transactions"), think it out a bit.

If one would get caught bringing in out-of-state critter tails, first the SD government would prosecute the person on fraud charges (probably a felony for each batch of illegal tails handed in) ) and then they would probably turn you over to the feds who could (with SD officials urging) would prosecute you under the Lacey Act (a potential felony for each count). AND if the feds cared, especially if the illegal operation was large or blatant enough, charge the person who turned in the bounty tails AND anyone outside the state who was willingly engaged in such illegal trade with the RICO Act. I would think that the state of SD will nail the first few violators (depending on bad and large the offense) nads to the wall as examples. No thank you...

https://www.animallaw.info/article/overview-lacey-act-16-usc-ss-3371-3378

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

Sad but true. Minnehaha County gives the Sioux Falls Fire Chief a pass pretty much on Possessing Child Porn, but yes youre right you’d probably end up in prison for grand theft. Man, thats not gonna give a guy much street cred when they find out why youre in.

Nowadays they are taking dna samples on all the subspecies and there locations.

I know they got a couple blood samples from Horicon muskrats.

Regardless of my sentiments of SD, fraud is theft

When narrow minded humans develop an agenda something going to fall. Waterfowl management is ruining our wetlands.

Bringing tails across the State lines would violate the Lacy act also you would think, it would suck to get arrested over coon tails GFP might be looking for a way to recover their investment! LOL

Don't think there is any MIGHT about it Law Dog. Every roadkill that is suddenly missing a tail confirms in the mind of the LEOs who are FOR SURE watching that some folks are collecting tails they intend to bounty. Patterns of tail collections might be surprisingly easy to discern.