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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: Posco] #6492091
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by snowy
The sad part about it is that some of the top blue party was for the wall when our last president was in office. Now they don't want it because their party isn't in the Whitehouse.



I think it's hard for most of us to appreciate just how cynical politicians can be. There was never a chance of a wall being built, that's why they felt comfortable saying they'd support one.

I agree


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: adam m] #6492096
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Originally Posted by adam m
That's true snowy.
3togo, the Potus can issue an eo giving term limits. There's a few in the house who support it.


How did you come up with that? Congress is a co-equal (to the executive) branch of government. The president can no more dictate term limits to Congress than Congress can tell the president who to appoint to his cabinet.

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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492100
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Originally Posted by snowy
The sad part about it is that some of the top blue party was for the wall when our last president was in office. Now they don't want it because their party isn't in the Whitehouse.

The Facts;
"We still don’t understand why the Democrats are so wholeheartedly against it. They voted for it in 2006. Then-Sen. Obama voted for it. Sen. Schumer voted for it. Sen. Clinton voted for it. So we don’t understand why Democrats are now playing politics just because Donald Trump is in office."


Snowy, who are you quoting, and what exactly did those Democrats vote for? That quote is off-the-wall enough to make me suspicious.

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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492103
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Jimmy wants open boarders,,plus one of his specialitys is lawyering up muslims.

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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492107
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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492108
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You're right I mistaken. I was thinking since He's the head of the executive.
The scotus in 95 ruled that term limits can only be done by a constitutional amendment which is out of the president's hand

Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492111
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There's a attempt to call a convention of states. This is where the Constitution can be amended, federal politicians be damned.

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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: ] #6492112
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Originally Posted by J Staton
There's a attempt to call a convention of states. This is where the Constitution can be amended, federal politicians be damned.


Yep.

If it happens, we'd better look out for the Second Amendment, though.

Jim


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492154
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Great point, James. The anti-gun crowd would definately smell blood in the water.

Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492158
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Quit blaming politicians for their position on illegals and firearms. They are sent to DC by voters. Those voters think those things are a good idea. When you have busses going into homeless camps, housing projects, and low income neighborhoods on election day to get out the vote, people on the bus telling them how a candidate is going to give them free stuff, who will they vote for? Here in KS we got a democrat governor last election because people who earn their money stayed home. You cant stay home on election day. Even in a state as red as KS.

Ever notice how homelessness is a much bigger problem in blue states?


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492163
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Time to introduce politicians and journalists to tall trees and short ropes. We the People are the rightful masters. Past time to put the fear into them. Make it very clear: put a wall and armed men at the border now, or suffer the consequences.


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: danny clifton] #6492168
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Quit blaming politicians for their position on illegals and firearms. They are sent to DC by voters. Those voters think those things are a good idea. When you have busses going into homeless camps, housing projects, and low income neighborhoods on election day to get out the vote, people on the bus telling them how a candidate is going to give them free stuff, who will they vote for? Here in KS we got a democrat governor last election because people who earn their money stayed home. You cant stay home on election day. Even in a state as red as KS.

Ever notice how homelessness is a much bigger problem in blue states?


Danny, what's wrong with Democrats bussing voters to the polls? The Republicans could bus voters to the polls and pump them up with campaign slogans too. Why don't they? Could it be because they don't want poor people to vote?

The Democrats are the party that will more likely give the poor free stuff that they need or want. Why on earth wouldn't they vote Democrat? Do you think wealthy voters don't vote their own interests? You can't fault the poor for doing the same thing the rich are doing--voting for their own handouts. The rich vote Republican because that is the party that is more likely to deliver the free stuff to them. The difference is that the rich also, in addition to voting, can use their money to buy influence with the politicians.

The homeless are more attracted to cities, where there are social services to help them. Blue states are more urban. Not a lot of big cities in red states. I think that explains the disparity you note.

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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492174
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But James still says he's not a Democrat!!
Thank God for Electoral College.


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6492181
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor

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You don't give time or insight to a person who by his own admission would, "Vote for any Democrat with a pulse."

What would be the point?

Over the years there have been many, many thoughtful and intelligent responses given to James' liberal nonsense where his rhetoric has been shown to be false. He has been proved wrong many times. He puts most of the folks who do that on "ignore."

Over the years it has become increasingly clear that he comes here mostly to post controversial and inflammatory comments to get as much reaction out of Tman members as he can (AKA trolling). When folks finally get fed up with his crap like they did a couple of weeks ago, He plays the victim. He dials it back, spins and diverts and tells us "what he really meant" and how we "misunderstood him."

Then he plays nice for a while before he starts trolling again.



Eh...wot?

Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492200
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James that was my point. If you stay home on election day don't be surprised if you don't like the tally. That is exactly what happened here in KS. People in Olathe and Lawrence showed up and farmers out around Scott City did not. We were busy that Tuesday. I left work early to vote. Took some ribbing from guys I work with. They were not so glib on Wednesday.

I don't believe homeless people move to places with more handouts. At least not in droves. In city's like San Diego, LA, and Seattle I think most of them are locals. Section 8, (government rent subsidy), housing projects, and state handouts, keep real estate values and rent artificially high. Without those subsidies we would not have more homeless we would have less. Do you really believe that government health care is not the reason cost is so high? You ran a law business. Could you have profited by charging more than your customers could pay?

A lot of homeless are addicts and or mentally ill. Those numbers per capita are pretty much the same where ever you go. We need programs for the mentally ill. People don't choose to be ill.


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492207
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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: James] #6492222
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by snowy
The sad part about it is that some of the top blue party was for the wall when our last president was in office. Now they don't want it because their party isn't in the Whitehouse.

The Facts;
"We still don’t understand why the Democrats are so wholeheartedly against it. They voted for it in 2006. Then-Sen. Obama voted for it. Sen. Schumer voted for it. Sen. Clinton voted for it. So we don’t understand why Democrats are now playing politics just because Donald Trump is in office."


Snowy, who are you quoting, and what exactly did those Democrats vote for? That quote is off-the-wall enough to make me suspicious.

Jim

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/democrats-support-border-wall/
There are numerous article and voting record documentation of the these three for it. I even heard NBC actually say it one day. LOL Unbelievable they would of slipped to say that. The thing is they don't want any type of wall now, no way no nothing even if the wall looks have changed since that vote.
Thanks James


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: snowy] #6492315
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Are people blind ,Our politicians are under the influence (of money) and they are being threatened and bought off !If you fail to see this and that's a majority of the nation . We are not headed to a slippery slope we are on it and almost to the point of no return. A million illegals a year ? more ? less? Registered to vote and drivers license to boot? I have seen them in gun shops and stores buying firearms but I neve see them out hunting. I am white and I feel that I am not represented. So what do we do . Violence will get you dead or imprisoned . Voting is so corrupt . Any ideas


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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: Lugnut] #6492317
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor

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You don't give time or insight to a person who by his own admission would, "Vote for any Democrat with a pulse."

What would be the point?

Over the years there have been many, many thoughtful and intelligent responses given to James' liberal nonsense where his rhetoric has been shown to be false. He has been proved wrong many times. He puts most of the folks who do that on "ignore."

Over the years it has become increasingly clear that he comes here mostly to post controversial and inflammatory comments to get as much reaction out of Tman members as he can (AKA trolling). When folks finally get fed up with his crap like they did a couple of weeks ago, He plays the victim. He dials it back, spins and diverts and tells us "what he really meant" and how we "misunderstood him."

Then he plays nice for a while before he starts trolling again.




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Re: Something needs to be done at the border [Re: Snowpa] #6492319
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
I am white and I feel that I am not represented. So what do we do . Violence will get you dead or imprisoned . Voting is so corrupt . Any ideas


Prepare yourself for the eventuality.


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