Re: preserving collected urine
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02/09/19 07:34 PM
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danny clifton
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if your collecting for yourself one coyote will produce a gallon in about two weeks. I like to feed whole rabbits. feed half the rabbit, frozen. coyote will stay a little hungry and eat it right up. no contaminates in your pee that way cause it stays solid. chop them in half with an axe. if it gets to smelling like sewer water you need to quit collecting till first of November or later.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: preserving collected urine
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02/09/19 08:33 PM
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danny clifton
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Read above about collection season. don't put it all in one container. then if you get that sewer smell it wont all be ruined.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: preserving collected urine
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03/03/19 07:41 AM
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danny clifton
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In the first photo look in the background. That old freezer lid is the tray. The pen sits ontop of it. Pen floor is expanded metal and the frame is rebar. The corners match on the cage and tray so the pen is above the tray. I whacked the center of the tray with a hammer and drilled a hole in the dent. A glass cake pan I bought at a thrift store goes under the hole and gets emptied regular. I set the tray up on a brick under each corner. Tie the cage to the tray with tie wire. The bottom photo you can see a little cage attached to the big cage. This is for the water bucket. Animal can not tip it over and it extends past the tray so animal can not splash out any water into the collection tray. There is a hole just big enough for the coyotes head so it can get a drink. Plastic would be lots better. I have to sand off rust every time I use it. Worth the effort though. Can get two coyotes in there or 3-4 fox. It goes in the garage so they have a little shelter
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: preserving collected urine
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03/03/19 10:08 AM
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TravisJerden
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You’ll have hairy pee in the summer, it’s garbage anyway. You may need some partial sides depending on keeping male or female or where your cages sit. Secure water bowls Clean cage of unused food and turds
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Re: preserving collected urine
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03/03/19 04:44 PM
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danny clifton
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believe it or not coyotes are kinda picky. road kill deer would be good or jackrabbits. go out and shoot prairie dogs. save muskrat carcasses. whatever you feed remember to freeze it and keep them on the hungry side. you want them to eat it all and eat fast. frozen nothing drips into the pee. coyotes and fox both got no problem eating frozen food. I collect feed before I pen anything up. don't mess with cats, squirrels, or coons. they will eat them but only if starved into it.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: preserving collected urine
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03/05/19 06:34 AM
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danny clifton
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I put the pen in the garage. if out of the wind and rain or snow they are fine. fur coats are warm. I think a dog box in a collection pen would be a real pain
danvee like was said earlier in this thread, winter is the only time its worth doing. winter collected needs no preservative. never goes bad. keep it in a hot shed or a freezer. don't matter. never goes bad.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: preserving collected urine
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03/05/19 10:17 AM
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Yes sir
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He does it so it doesnt change over time especially in formulations. How would it be more convenient for him to put his urine through another process, sounds like more work for him. I haven't tried so I wont say yes or no about the process. I prefer the freshest odor on urine I can get.
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Re: preserving collected urine
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03/06/19 06:21 AM
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I don't know if i would agree with PASTEURIZING. That seems to be more for his conveyance then the users. I think taking clean urine and putting up in glass gets better with age. Especially in lure formulation. x99* look up Cold or Ice Pasteurizing and you will find a buried stump that's not ever been there . there are micro-organisms that live in very cold material / liquid .
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