I would think that u live closer to bigger city to get much bussiness, there are others, a competitor trapper I met in area, advertises now, also see bat removal specialist in area.

Ok you can do 1 of 2 things. Well 3 really. Complain and keep complaining , 2 say nothing get killed 3 quit.
Had a similar thing happen to me 25 years ago. Worked for a company that made wheels for Honda accords. They powder coated some parts and as powder build up on the spindle the parts rode on it would loose neg charge. The paint gun put positive charge in the powder paint so it would stick. After so long no negative charge was on the spindles so as I was operating I got blasted with 10,000 volts. NO amps only reason didn't kill me. I pulled the e-stop that shut half the factory down . The plant superviser met me as I was headed to his office. I told him that if they didn't get this fix the plant would catch fire from an arc or someone would get fried. I told him if it was me my wife would own that place and her first task would be to fire his a$$. I got sent home. LOL got a call at 3 am the paint booth had arced and caught fire . They wanted me in early to repair it and get it going. I did but got triple time and another day off. My incident got recorded and the CEO found out about it apologized to me and FIRED THE PLANT MANAGER. lol

Yes just last week I was doing dirty job of debur these long bars with holes with oil on them, help load in press for someone that new. An bfore they get punch press, the ooerater turns switch an these clamps go an hold in position, I was position bar an the jerk had hand on switch, I don't believe Lazar curtain would stop clamps, if he turn the switch an i lost fingers, I told this to other guy an he just laugh , I need be very careful, I really don't think much them, $12.40 hr , going on 14 months , time go soon , no vac or holiday benefits

Probly reason why so much of turnover at CDL jobs with new ppl, all safety involved, many quit soon or get sent home

Maybe you could get a trucking job. I know some people that like truck driving- pretty lucrative sign- on bonuses.

OSHA is a domestic terrorist organization as far as I'm concerned, corporations live in fear of them. An unattended respirator, a respirator left laying around by an employee can result in a fine of $10,000 for the company. If they happen to find two on the same visit, the second respirator as well as each additional respirator they come upon can result in a fine of $100,000 per respirator. That's worst case scenario. You can probably blame that on bad employers/employees, insurance companies, worker advocacy groups and other affected parties.


The most seemingly innocuous safety violation would get you canned at two employers I've worked for. Any injury requiring a Band-Aid sent supervisors running.

You can call OSHA and they will come, just be prepared for reprisals.

Organized Socialism Hurting America! OSHA

Best to have a talk with the guy your working with and either come to an understanding or quit.

Are they banner light curtains. You can check the function of the light curtain by placing a hand in front of the light curtain as the press is cycling. It will give you a idea of the adjustment of the clutch and brake. It should come to a dead stop as soon as the plane of the curtain is broken. As far as the clamps working while your in there loading the die. They should not work. Does the presses have honeywell/ wintress i/o logic controls. If they do the operator can shutoff or turn on auxiliary functions inside the control box. It sounds like your running a press set up as a secondary. These were always set up so the operators could go into the after the press hit bottom and started back up but it will always stop at top. All presses have a Dvss valve which mean two separate valves would have to go bad at the same time in order for the press to not stop at top and continue on over. Each operator should have his own palm button station wired in series so if there is 4 operators them 8 buttons have to be pressed in order for the press to cycle. You should check the light curtain before the start of production and anytime you feel like it through the day. I can keep going if you want. I was a maint tech at metal stamping plant for 8 years and have experience with verson and Niagara clearing presses clear up to 1300 ton.

I believe a press setup as secondary , not allowed to adjust functions inside control box, reset brake mointer an things like that when press don't fire, is all allowed to do , what I am saying is 2 operaters an 1 set controls on some presses an some ppl with hands on palm buttons resting there an not pay attention at times an try to operate press,while i loading or moving parts to another station an if the Lazar curtain fail or something malfunction, loose hands arms or ur life, I think someone read this post already, where I work , am sucipicipus, there are lots snitches around the plant just like all other factories, they run up an tell superviser right away about anything for brownie points , easy jobs

Please don't use any part of your body to test safeties. Use an inanimate object.

I don't even see it sometimes, I in die of press an idiot is with hands on controls or not even pay attention. An try fire the press, not sure if that legal with osssia to have 1 set controls with 2 operaters

It is ok for 2 operators if controls can't be reached by one person

If you are going to put your hands into a machine while someone has their hands on the controls than YOU are not very smart. Tell them to remove their hands one time, second time kick them in nuts I bet you their hands will be somewhere besides the controls after that.

There should be two sets of light curtains on each side. A set running vertically and a set running horizontally. They should be set back away from the bed/ram area. Osha makes the manufactures figure a stopping time related to a operator tripping or falling past the light curtain toward the bed/die area. It doesn't take that many millions seconds from the curtain plane being broken till the signal is sent and the ram stops. Each operator on a secondary set up should have there own palm button station. I believe I would call osha and have them investigate. Anytime I ever repaired a light curtain on a press, I tested it several times before i handed it back over to the operator to continue production. The operator would usually run the press while i performed my tests. There should be a place on every corner of the press to plug in a set of palm button stations. There is a set of dummy plugs you put in if you only need say two operators instead of four so you would dummy out two plugs and have two palm button stations. The dummy's just jump the safety circuit on whatever station there plugged into.

If the press is built to the safety standard there should be somewhere around 30" from the light curtain to the bed area and then a stamping die dosent take up the whole bed so it could be another foot or so till the actual pinch point area.

If the press is built to the safety standard there should be somewhere around 30" from the light curtain to the bed area and then a stamping die dosent take up the whole bed so it could be another foot or so till the actual pinch point area.

Call OSHA anonymously.

That's another good idea. Someone called them where I worked one time. They wasnt all nazi as you hear. They wrote up a bunch or things and gave us a time frame to get them repaired. We immediately fixed all there problems the next few weekends and when they came back they gave us a pass and said see you later. No fine etc. I seen someone mentioned fines about respirators and they are only good for a single shift or that job as long as it can be completed in that day. They should be inspected before each use during that day and after there use should be immediately returned to be cleaned and inspected. I've been in mechanical maintenance for almost 20 years now and I rely on only myself to keep myself safe and healthy. I always go up in added safety equipment vs what the company say which I have the right to.

No job is worth any kind of life altering injury. I'm sure this is a reason why they use temp service. I think I would throat punch someone if that mistake was made more then once.