Re: Build cabins
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02/23/19 12:27 AM
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White spruce,cut and peel in late winter,build in early fall. What size?
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Re: Build cabins
[Re: lots of mink]
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02/23/19 12:09 PM
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Clean peeling is the easiest, but like gibb said they really like to mold. Clean pealing is a timing thing. You miss the timing and they won't clean peel. You cut too early in the winter here and there is not enough sap or they dry out or whatever they won't clean peel good. You cut them in the summer before August and you can peel half a side in one swoop, but those trees are heavy with sap and won't dry before winter here because we are going into the rainy season and no matter how you treat them and protect them they will probably end up black as the ace of spades.
I like to cut logs in April when the sap is beginning to run. Sunny side up will clean peel in April. You have to keep checking each log as different logs will clean peel at different times. Keep rotating bark up into the sun. If they are peeling good you should be able to pry up the bark with a screwdriver and pull long strips of bark off (5 to 15 feet or more). Once you have removed all the bark and don't want your logs to mold stack them and put a roof over them. I will suspend a large tarp above them, keeping rain off, but allowing air flow. If you have a couple of relatively dry months they won't mold much. If it is rainy, you will have to bleach them. IMO if you cut and peel them in late spring and it doesn't rain most of the spring, summer an fall they should be light enough to build with in November.
Good luck!
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Re: Build cabins
[Re: lots of mink]
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02/23/19 06:57 PM
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Make cribs with the ties-easier to shim from settling and or heaving if that is a concern.
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Re: Build cabins
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02/25/19 06:59 PM
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9 should do it.How is your ground,might want to go 3x3 cribs.
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Re: Build cabins
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03/11/19 02:05 PM
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We have a man here in Michigan that uses high pressure sprayer(Power washer) to blast the bark off.
Then he stores them to dry, staked and covered mostly.
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Re: Build cabins
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03/11/19 05:26 PM
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The best peeler are broken truck springs that are sharpened on one end and the shackle part is a good holding point. 3 foot leverage really works in the bark peeling. I use a snowmachine spring in simliar fashion for frost fleshing beavers.
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Re: Build cabins
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03/12/19 05:12 AM
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I usually make an outbuilding each summer. Seems I can't have enough small outbuildings (trap shed, lure shed, banya, greenhouse, garden shed, chicken coop, woodshed, she-shed, etc.). I cut lodgepole pine that is at least 2 years standing dead. I mill 2 sides flat, then draw-knife off the bark and cambium, sticker and stack over the winter, then build. Very little settling/shrinkage. I make the foundations with simple cinder blocks and never span more than 8' without supports (I hate spongy floors). Floor joists are 2x8s, often doubled, on 1-foot centers. Makes for tight little cabins. I agree that leaving the bark on is asking for trouble because of insect infestations and mold. On dead-standing lodgepole, takes about 15 minutes to clean-peel the logs with a sharp drawknife and well worth the time and effort.
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Re: Build cabins
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03/12/19 11:16 AM
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I like it Posco. I've been using 8" spikes and need to pre-drill anyway. Why not go to hardwood dowels? Cheaper, and doesn't dull the blades when you inadvertently cut into one. Probably just as strong. Next cabin, I'll change my evil ways. Thanks.
Jack
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Re: Build cabins
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03/12/19 11:26 AM
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Lovely she- shed , Jack ! I would like to have one, and a banya someday similar . I do like the stonework too. I have enjoyed making stone walkways in fitting them like a puzzle and placing them flush in the ground without mortar . The mortar would be better, though. Someday !
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