Pan Tension
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02/03/19 09:21 PM
02/03/19 09:21 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 282 New York
Short Track
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New York
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How much force should you have to apply on a pan to release the dog ? Do you keep it light, or heavy?
I notice as my traps get rusty, the pan tightens up, and is more difficult to move.. Even without the dog set, the pans can be difficult to move.
Isn't it better to have a hair trigger? Rather than a direct force of a 15 lb animal on it.
Just a weekend trapper...
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Re: Pan Tension
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#6450487
02/03/19 10:34 PM
02/03/19 10:34 PM
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 350 North of Harrisburg, Pa.
coytclr
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Depends on what your trapping. After saying that I have caught Coon,Coyote, Fox, Fisher, Opossum, Skunk with PIT pan system that gives 3-4 lbs. of pan tension. Heavy pan tension IMO leads to less toe catches.
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Re: Pan Tension
[Re: Short Track]
#6450564
02/03/19 11:36 PM
02/03/19 11:36 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,132 SWMo.
tjm
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So, with heavy pan tension the criter stands on the pan and it does not fire the trap. That is the long and short of it, set the pan tension so that it will not catch what you don't want. 2# will keep out squirrels 5# will keep out most foxes and 12# would probably keep out small coyotes. Toe catches are the result of poor foot placement and nothing else.
You can easily test this, human reflexes are faster than animal reflexes- so set two traps, one with low tension and one with high tension- then press the pan on each with your index finger until it moves down (this would be the point that a criter could be warned) and just as the pan moves off the dog jerk back as fast as you can; you will see that the heavy tension pan catches you, but you can always escape the light tension pan???? eh?
The thing you talk about of the pan tension increasing with rust is just rust sticking to rust, that is the reason for using tannin and paraffin to remove and prevent rust. i have traps that have lain out in my yard for three years right now, that will work quite well, just because they were once treated with tannin and paraffin. But it could also be somewhat a problem with poor fit between the pan shank and the pan posts, if the posts look like / \ or \ / rather than like l l , they will need bending and probably a washer inserted next to the pan shank so that the pan screw exerts an even force, rather than a pinch at the top or bottom.
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Re: Pan Tension
[Re: tjm]
#6450616
02/04/19 12:33 AM
02/04/19 12:33 AM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,184 Marion Kansas
Yes sir
"Callie's little brother"
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"Callie's little brother"
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Marion Kansas
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So, with heavy pan tension the criter stands on the pan and it does not fire the trap. That is the long and short of it, set the pan tension so that it will not catch what you don't want. 2# will keep out squirrels 5# will keep out most foxes and 12# would probably keep out small coyotes. Toe catches are the result of poor foot placement and nothing else.
You can easily test this, human reflexes are faster than animal reflexes- so set two traps, one with low tension and one with high tension- then press the pan on each with your index finger until it moves down (this would be the point that a criter could be warned) and just as the pan moves off the dog jerk back as fast as you can; you will see that the heavy tension pan catches you, but you can always escape the light tension pan???? eh?
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Re: Pan Tension
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#6450674
02/04/19 07:06 AM
02/04/19 07:06 AM
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Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,028 West Cent IL
illinideer
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I run roughly around 2.5 lbs on my traps I have a mix of duke round jaw and bridger dogless #2 and 3 mb 550's all 2 coil. I have had a couple of toe catches this year but the crap weather we've had and even with wax dirt the traps have had to fire through less than ideal conditions. But either way its still a catch J
Coyote 5 Badger 1 Coons 17 Bobcats 2 Released Grinners All of them USN AE2 VF-31 Tomcatters Retired SMSGT IL ANG 183 Fighter Wing Coyote U Class #4
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