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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444193
01/29/19 01:18 PM
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Thanks Patrice. That's a bit better but it's still the camel's nose !!!

I wish Pass-thru, James, Blaine would weigh in on where these guys think they have the authority to do this


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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444194
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People who think up these laws place the value of animals above that of human lives.


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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: Pike River] #6444199
01/29/19 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by Patrice
I can only find references to actions in 2017 with S.654 — 115th Congress (2017-2018)

Correct - senate bill 654

Again, I cannot find any action on this dated in January of 2019, as the CBS "News" article states. I tried some searches on congress.gov but no luck. Does anyone have another link that shows any current action in 2019?


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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444297
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These guys think they have the moral authority. That they are inherently better than others. And instead of impinging on rights and freedoms, they are bestowing benevolence on the unwashed masses. “Here, no need to thank us, we’re just doing what is right.” And on to the next crusade.

Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: Patrice] #6444352
01/29/19 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrice

Again, I cannot find any action on this dated in January of 2019, as the CBS "News" article states. I tried some searches on congress.gov but no luck. Does anyone have another link that shows any current action in 2019?


Here - not updated yet

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/654/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22PACT%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=4

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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444353
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I crushed a mouse in the fur shed the other day as it scampered by my foot. Guess I could get 7 years in prison for that. This bill is dripping with the anti, liberal agenda. I will be contacting my state reps tonight about this.


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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: DaYooper14] #6444357
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Originally Posted by DaYooper14
Originally Posted by Patrice

Again, I cannot find any action on this dated in January of 2019, as the CBS "News" article states. I tried some searches on congress.gov but no luck. Does anyone have another link that shows any current action in 2019?


Here - not updated yet

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/654/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22PACT%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=4


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr724
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/724/actions

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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: DaYooper14] #6444559
01/29/19 07:38 PM
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HR724 - Thanks Yooper.


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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444721
01/29/19 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Thanks Patrice. That's a bit better but it's still the camel's nose !!!

I wish Pass-thru, James, Blaine would weigh in on where these guys think they have the authority to do this


White, Congress invokes its powers under the Commerce Clause when passing animal cruelty laws. I have not read this law thoroughly. IMO generic animal cruelty laws should be the purview of the states. If congress passes laws that directly impacts interstate congress....like laws affecting animals being sold in interstate commerce, that would seem within the scope of their authority. But Congress can seem to stretch the interstate commerce clause to fit agendas at times.

Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444838
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by Cathouse Jim
Doesn't slaughterhouses put cows down with an air powered spike? Surely that would be considered impaling.
While this attempt is pretty scary, it seems too broad of an area to push all at once. (I hope)



That is another thing that occurred to me. This could be a vehicle for the vegan whack jobs to prohibit eating meat

Happy 2019 white17 and Barb! thanks for the info and God have mercy if one of those vegans get between me and ribeye!

Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444908
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Make sure Toby is on the other side of the table Justin !! laugh


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Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444943
01/30/19 12:10 AM
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will do and you can take back this cold AK weather any time now

Re: Better Get in Front of this [Re: white17] #6444944
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It's good for you !!! Make you grow some hair !!


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