Re: fleshing
[Re: Shaun Aden]
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01/27/19 09:47 PM
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Make sure you brush out any dried mud or cockle burrs before fleshing as they will cause holes. Also, watch the nipples and armpit areas. I run the sharp side for most of the coon...but I am no expert as I have probably only put up a few hundred. Guys on here put up that many or more in a season and probably have better advice than me LOL
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Re: fleshing
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01/27/19 10:39 PM
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Watch your angle of your knife hold it strait up and down for pushing and angle it forward for shaving.I use the dull side for coon. The angle is important also. If you wanna try a changeup, get one of the cheap knives from one of the suppliers, and grind a square(flat) edge on it. A square edge works really well for coon, and can be easily maintained. I’m pretty sure Beav recommended that to me quite a few years back and it worked well for me until I got my Steinmeyer knife. I just use it for everything now.
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Re: fleshing
[Re: Shaun Aden]
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01/28/19 02:06 AM
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Don't ever hold your blade In a vertical angle. Your knife blade should just about be flat weather your pushing fat or slicing gristle. And when using your Necker make sure the bevel Is up. And don't push fat or gristle like your shoveling snow. Use a sidewise slicing motion and don't over reach. Keep moving that hide up the beam so you have better control. You start over reaching you lose control of that knife.
What size Is your PVC beam? Is It split so It has flattened out a bit. Maybe the beam Is your problem.
Last edited by The Beav; 01/28/19 02:11 AM.
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Re: fleshing
[Re: The Beav]
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01/28/19 02:14 AM
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Don't ever hold your blade In a vertical angle. Your knife blade should just about be flat weather your pushing fat or slicing gristle. And when using your Necker make sure the bevel Is up. And don't push fat or gristle like your shoveling snow. Use a sidewise slicing motion and don't over reach. Keep moving that hide up the beam so you have better control. You start over reaching you lose control of that knife.
What size Is your PVC beam? Is It split so It has flattened out a bit. Maybe the beam Is your problem. I just did an otter tonight and did most of it with the dull side vertical with a necker 600. Used sharp side around head and tail area. What is the reason for not using it vertical ?
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Re: fleshing
[Re: Shaun Aden]
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01/28/19 08:01 AM
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Dennis, do you too keep your fleshing knife blade vertical (perpendicular to the beam) when you flesh? Or do you keep it more flat and parallel to the face of the beam?
I've been trying for ten yeasr, seen countless demonstrations, and I still stink at fleshing. I don't cut many holes any more, but I leave too much fat.
Every time I see a demonstration the fat and flesh just shear right off of the hide and leave smooth, clean skin below it. My knife just slides right over the top of all that fat and grissle and man, I'm really bearing down and trying to dig that edge down under the fat. Still the blade just slips over the top of it and maybe squeegees out some liquid fat. But I just can't seem to get a blade underneath the fat unless I use the sharp, convex side of my fleshing knife - then I eventually cut holes.
The one time I fleshed a coon and it looked like it does for other people is when I left a skinned coon outside the shop in the icy air for a few minutes before fleshing. The pelt was just slightly frosty and a bit stiff. Boy, the fat just peeled right off, that time! I could hear a nice ripping noise as the partially frozen fat just sheared off nice and clean. I wish it was always well below freezing when I was fleshing pelts, that technique sure produced a nice result.
Overall, I do find that fleshing works better if done the day after skinner or even better, after the pelt has been in the freezer and later thawed out for fleshing.
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Re: fleshing
[Re: Shaun Aden]
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01/28/19 08:29 AM
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I'm no expert on different beams but not sure about PVC for the beginner? Why not spend $30 and get a good wood beam? I think it'd be easier?
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Re: fleshing
[Re: Shaun Aden]
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01/28/19 08:34 AM
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I have struggled at times too. I do not do coons however. I was handed a wooden fleshing beam and it really works well with cats and canines and I'm sure most else tho I don't target much else. I have lengths of pvc here from other uses, up to 12" diameter and I can tell you I would never attempt to use it. Maybe others are using a bigger diameter? I am sure I am not as skilled fleshing as the guys who use pvc. My beam has a much gentler curve so I can use it.
I took my wood beam and wrapped it with the neoprene they use for lining shower stalls before tiling, you can buy it at Menards, Home Depot etc by the foot off a roll. I pulled it tight and wrapped my beam. It's less than an 1/8 inch thick and gave it just enough forgiveness. Be careful not to run off the hide at the bottom edge too much. Works for the Sunday flesher I am.
Due to schedule I gave the beam set up to a guy who doesn't trap anymore but does great put ups, he does my stuff with it and even with his learned talent uses the beam that way.
Osky
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Re: fleshing
[Re: Shaun Aden]
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01/28/19 09:31 AM
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Here is a video I put on youtube a few seasons ago. Notice the angle. Brush every hide good, do them while they are cool and the fat has set up, use the sharp side only on the neck and remember that every coon has tits that can tear to include boars....LLL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBaUYttVNvk
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Re: fleshing
[Re: Shaun Aden]
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01/28/19 09:40 AM
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Another thing I went to pull my traps and wound up setting out more, Is this normal? LOL yeah
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