Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: FarmerDan]
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01/24/19 01:03 PM
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Listen to bctomcat. Don't go around changing things leave everything as natural as possible. I did have a coyote today stop and walk around my CR then fool around In the fence line then come out and walk around It again. Then It walked down the field edge walked In on It's tracks from the other day. And It did the same thing at that snare. But at that one It just stopped and turned around and left. Coyotes are coyotes sometimes they will just plow ahead and go right through that loop. Then the next time they will stall out for what ever reason and walk around It or just back up.
It Is what It Is.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: FarmerDan]
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01/24/19 01:11 PM
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I set everything standing on the trail. All of these have been set sense dec 26th and I check every from the 4 wheeler so I don’t think they are smelling anything but I could be wrong. I also have jump sticks on these. I kinda think they me be seeing the random stick on the trail and then picking the rest out from there. Avoid stepping on the coyote trails. When you see their trail, walk around it and find a spot to set the snare on their trail. Remember when you set the snare stay off their trail, don’t even step on it with one foot when setting the snare. It sometimes can be awkward leaning over their trail to hang the snare, but it’s the best way to avoid the coyote from turning around. Get rid of those jump sticks too. No need for them. If the snares are in a spot where it’s too open, I like to break a small 2-3 foot tree that’s close by and push it into the snow beside the snare. This keeps the coyote from walking around your snare and helps blend the snare as well.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: bctomcat]
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01/24/19 01:21 PM
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I’m going to pull the jump sticks and see if that helps. Also do you like to neck down the trail as much a possible or leave it more open and how it naturally was? Leave it as natural as possible. Blocking or fencing IMHO is a no/no unless very subtle like blade of grass or a small twig or branch that appears to have fallen in place. x2. It really helps to find the narrowest points in the trail and set them as well. One thing that is often overlooked is to set around a bend in the trail where they can't see your CR from 20' away. Wait for a dark night with cloud cover, you'll get them.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: Yes sir]
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01/24/19 01:27 PM
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Stay out of the trail, do you think yotes are stupid? if you were traveling through the area and walking a trail, it wouldn't send up a red flag, but trappers don't do that. they get on a trail, set a snare, walk a few yards and do it again. Like was said, set from the sid, minimum disturbance, and brush out tracks in the snow. I'll say it again, stay off the trails!
Another thing is the moonlight. Especially with larger cable. Here lately with the full moon, they can see everything....and notice everything. Snaring during the full moon, always slows down, except on dark cloudy nights. Stay in or on your vehickle to check, and use binoculars and check from as far as it takes to be able to see the loop. The vehicle tracks don't put yotes on alert like someone out farting arouund in their territory that they know like you know your own house! Good luck! Lee I dont do very much snaring but have a question on coyote avoidance in general. If a coyote's "warning system" is alerted to an area where a snare was hung either from the small amount of human odor left when setting the snare or by noticing something not right visually do you think the average coyote will have his alert on guard enough that it would be hard to catch that individual at that set say in the next two weeks? Yes, yes and yes! They notice any changes in the landscape. I was gonna point out the jump stick thing and forgot! Leave everything natural when snaring. Cats are a different story, but canines notice everything. That said, slight alterations can be an attractant when foot trapping. Example, a sod turnover will get their interest, a rock or piece of wood, or a blackened stump, all can attract, but if using lure in those situations, keep it natural or they will just walk by. All but the dumbest pups! I catch coyotes all the time, on dark nights, in faint trail situations in bare pastures, with a weed to break the outline of the support. I confess that I use 1/16 cable exclusively, but the yotes walk right into them. One other thing I always try to do is set on a bend of a trail, so when the yote looks down the trail, he sees the vegetation instead of the loop. From what the OP wrote, just doing the first several things we have mentioned, should help immensely! One other thing, I use the Senneker set up, and do not want any entanglement with it, so I set in very open areas, just like the laws are for cable restraints. I understand that you can't be safe using that setup where pets or hunting dogs roam, but they sure kill coyotes!
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: Tactical.20]
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01/24/19 10:47 PM
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^^^^^^^^Agree, fit your LOADED snare loop to the trail.
Last edited by bctomcat; 01/24/19 11:45 PM.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: FarmerDan]
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01/25/19 02:20 AM
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Break the outline of the snare loop by adding weed stems or whatever is natural, into the coyotes line of approach. Nothing in nature is shaped like a snare loop(round) and if a canine sees it they will avoid it. If you look back down the trail and see a circle, so can the coyote. Another vote for not walking on the trail also. Jump sticks are a really good way to snare fawns and winter stressed deer.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: FarmerDan]
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01/25/19 10:16 AM
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Your either In the trail or out of It. But there are times when you have to walk In the trail but I try and avoid doing that If I can.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: FarmerDan]
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01/25/19 11:41 PM
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So how many here just hang and go? Don't worry about fencing or blocking just set it and move on? I always try to put a chin up stick and typically a piece of vegetation on the outside of the snare and a leaf over the lock. I think I ruined one area by walking down too many trails and spending too much time in an area.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: Kirby01]
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01/25/19 11:51 PM
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So how many here just hang and go? I do.
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
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01/25/19 11:54 PM
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So how many here just hang and go? I do. Yup, they are just animals. I’m sure some are hard to catch. But, jeez, they are critters
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: FarmerDan]
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01/25/19 11:56 PM
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I’m learning a lot from this. Great stuff guys!
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Re: Coyote seeing cable restraint.
[Re: Kirby01]
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01/26/19 12:26 AM
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I always try to put a chin up stick and typically a piece of vegetation on the outside of the snare and a leaf over the lock. Thanks No, no and no, just set and go as others have said.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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