Mr. Mark got it right. When I place an order (most orders placed during the offseason) I want it filled ASAP. If the shipper is slow he will not see a second order from me.

If its good chit and they really want it,a little wait just makes it more desireable.

Not trying to be difficult but most serious trappers have stuff ordered months before the season. Most that I know do.
Mac

What about the folks who do ADC and trap year round?

Let's see here Mac.....I did the deal in March expecting a bag by Nov so that would be 7-8 months? Is that enough to qualify as a serious trapper or just a wanna-be?

I personally can’t wait to hear what the excuse is for the delay. Sounds like he wanted your money but not your business. I hope you can get your money back if not your order. I have heard his bags are top notch, but, I know it’ll be hard for me to ever order from him.

Jim, I paid via PayPal. I filed for a refund with them.

How much bait, lure or trapping bags do "serious" trappers buy? If they aren't serious trappers, what about the average or weekend warriors who enjoy trapping and spend lots of time in the field with their kids teaching them how to trap? They count? or not worthy or don't matter?Considering most say all you need is a bean size smear of the stuff, what... one or two bottles of a certain brand? Lets say you are the serious trapper and bought you a "case" of the latest and greatest good "chit" bait&lure because that's how serious of a trapper you are. Now funds are low but you are serious about that trapping and taking ya son out on the season opener because you promised him. You pile all ya trapping stuff even the good "chit" in the vehicle the night before so that you are locked cocked and ready to rock for tha season opener. BUT..while you sleep your vehicle is vandalized and all your trapping supplies gone or demolished. Now what? Make it easier...lets say you drop your lure jar in the field and it breaks and it's in liquid form. Now what? Try to salvage it with shards of glass and soil in it? What if the individuals son or daughter drops the jars because they are so excited that they are going trapping with their mother or father? So now your sol because you can't order the good "chit" because the folks who you bought the good "chit" from are serious trappers and have ta wait until the off season to pick you up some more of the good "chit" again? Heck if the "chit" is that good I want it now because them animals are only attracted to the good "chit"! Whether it be a bag, bait, lure or traps, how about not even getting the product to begin with...even after they confirmed they got your check for the product ...now that's some crazy peanut butter and jelly rii derr. Good luck on getting your bag, hope everything gets worked out.

jwood it's a blast, I'm just thankful they've kept an interest in the outdoors and thinking of others besides themselves. I don't force any of the outdoor activities on them. I do try like heck to make every encounter they have in the outdoors a good one though, I think that has helped quite a bit.

I think it is in poor taste to dogpile onto a trapper/luremaker who is not here to defend himself. What ever the deal is, I guarantee he is not intentionally ripping people off.

I completely agree!! I understand the concerns of the ones that have financial interest in the subject but not the ones that don't.

I know Andy and he will make it right having said that a business is a business and if he is trapping which he is he needs to have enough people to make his lure business work. I understand we all love trapping but you should not have to order things months ahead of time to for a business dealers convenience. Burning the candle at both ends is not an excuse, he will not rip you off though.

PASkinner - So if you don’t hold your end of the deal up because you are so busy it’s unintentional? Did he not make a choice to ignore his “business” and instead do other things?

If he can get on Facebook then he can get on Trapperman. No dog piling here.

Any other excuses / defense you would like to provide for him?

Danvee - how long would you wait for a paid for order before you consider being ripped off?

Bigsky not making excuses for him re read my post he does need to take care of business just saying he did not run to Las Vegas with the the money he does need to be a trapper or a lure dealer and if both hire some help to run the business.

Gotcha and agree danvee. Ultimately I hope Andy “sees the light” and realizes that he needs to reorganize his priorities and how they are addressed. I’m not mad nor angry. I’m disappointed.

I met Andy 15 years ago by the trapping conventions here in mt., fast forward now and we both are dealers and we trade . And I have never had a problem. Good guy, great products .

Well I sure hope this all turns into a misunderstanding, but I believe a lesson in customer service should be learned.

I trade with him too, at conventions.

I never said anything about excuses. I run a business. Once in a blue moon I forget something or make a mistake. I'm human, it happens. When it does, and I'm made aware of it, I try to make it right. I'm sure Andy will do the same, but until he is aware of what is going on here and responds, I wouldn't assume anything, or make any judgments.

Asking for ^^^ in a public forum where some of the business comes from typically means they have already exhausted all of their forms of communication they had to the business, and are not in the waiting game after paying for a product and not receiving it or any form of communication besides receiving your $. Then have others type about their issues as well, I'm thinking you may get a response sooner rather than later.