Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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At the open pit mines I worked at, the equipment was left running if it was not in use. Much cheaper to burn fuel and keep everything in working order than the manpower to fool around trying to get them started. We ran 24/7 but there was always equipment not in use full time.
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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01/24/19 09:47 PM
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I didn't think that would pertain to you, one other place I worked we would tarp over Cat 992 loaders about 4 hrs before needed and place a big kerosene/diesel salamander heater under it there to warm up the hydraulic tanks and engine. My only experience is with big equipment at High Altitude mines Someone else will have their experiences I am sure. /
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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01/24/19 09:49 PM
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http://wiktel.com/weather.phpWarroad would be the weather for me coming up, if you click on that. Near 30 below within the week. That's hard on equipment.
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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Block heater makes my truck fire right up. Hydraulics on the tractor, at least for me are a different story. I have found that changing the fluid right before winter every other year does the trick. I think moisture builds up in the older fluid and freezes up. They also sell oil dip sticks that you plug in and they will keep the oil warm. That really helps with a cold crank.
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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We add the appropriate amount of Diesel fuel supplement (powered service) and plug them in. Start them up and let them run 10 minutes at 1200 rpm and go for it. We usually only get cold (-1 to -10) a day or two a year so I’m no expert, but it works for us. I’ve had feed trucks gel up at 10 above if they didn’t have power service in the fuel. If that happens we use Diesel 911. It’s a great product
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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01/24/19 10:15 PM
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Block heater, command starts, aviation hydraulic fluid (AW32), #1 diesel fuel, synthetic oil and gear lube.
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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01/24/19 11:10 PM
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Like Pawnee said, add Power Service in the fuel tank and make sure it's mixed in before the cold spell hits. Power Service comes in white bottles for summer and red bottles for winter. Get the red bottles. It'll prevent gelling and prevent icing in the fuel. (Also adds upper lube to keep injector pumps, valve guides etc from sticking.) If your equipment uses air breaks etc add airline deicer (alcohol) to the air tanks, or fill up the alcohol sniffer if it's equipped for it. In the winter we run 10wt or equivalent Hyd oil, but even at that you still want to let the pump warm up for a bit before engaging any controls. And then at idle slowly cycle all hyd cylinders full stroke to prevent busting lines or blowing "o" rings, before putting full power to them.
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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01/25/19 02:45 PM
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Block heaters, Anti-Gel, and tank heaters. Plug it in, Plug it in. I've started my truck in temps as low as -50... but only if I had it plugged in.
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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01/25/19 03:29 PM
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block heaters, and anti-gel... if you have bio diesel, switch filters to a bigger ppm filter and you should have no problem. when I had my own trucks, I very rarely used anti - gel because the trucks returned more fuel than they used, thus warm fuel. biggest problem I ever had was with bio fuel, and once I went to bigger ppm filter I never had anymore problem. I now work for a rental company, and we just use winter blend fuel. only the delivery trucks get plugged in. most of our bigger stuff has glow plugs. if they are working, most likely its going to start. as far as hydraulics, they will be slow at first, but will warm up and work fine.
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Re: Extreme cold, hydraulics, and diesel
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You don't have to worry about wind-chill on Iron, but it does cool it down to the ambient temp quicker, and it makes it miserable working on it. Lol I doubt I open front door to my house if their even close to being right! Trash will still be there next week!
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