Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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The Federal Government already owns the first 60 ft along the Mexican border , established in 1907 , The Roosevelt Reservation . The same way the gov. "owns" 60 feet from the center of a highway , you pay taxes on that land but if they want it they can take it / The Roosevelt Reservation
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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Much a worry about nothing, the river is a natural boundary always has been will continue to be, it's a pinch point for those who feel they can work the system, all that will happen is more arrests being done in those areas.
The wall is more of a analogy of what needs to be done than an actual presence, but so many people cannot relate to words with more letters in them that total more than their IQ !
This is what Trump lay's on the media, they eat it up as they feel they are the dictionary for the regular mass's, if you wish to follow what Trump is doing you must first learn how he place's his ideas out for harvesting LOL
Most will never get it and will continue to move along in their little circles of life wondering when does it ever get better ! Spot on!
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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The wall is more of a analogy of what needs to be done than an actual presence, but so many people cannot relate to words with more letters in them that total more than their IQ ! Are you saying that when Trump says we need a wall, he's not talking about an actual physical barrier of some sort?
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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Are you saying that when Trump says we need a wall, he's not talking about an actual physical barrier of some sort? His original statement was the analogy, now he has changed it to mean an actual physical presence, only after the media had corrupted his first statement so much, he figured why not just go with it, which then started a new crap store with the media who then tried to go back to his first statement as an analogy LOL People don't get Trump cause he speaks off hand so much, he don't use speech writers for off the cuff remarks and does not care how others interpret them, never has, it's how he cornered many of his top business deals by throwing off the competitors, he's doing the same thing in office as he's not a politician, he is running his office like a business which is very plain to see to others who know how he became what he is now. It's very easy to see when Trump is using a written speech, he's very off his speaking pattern, stumbles through it, his physical presence is off kilter, he is absolutely out of his element, the media always attributes it to some health element, it's quite hilarious ! To other's it's just running amok with crazy ideas. His methods are not book like but they are working as the economy is showing, should politicians be nervous, yes because they now know that other REGULAR people can run for office and succeed in doing so. They are now truly at risk of losing their career jobs !
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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Lets have anyone from the south who wants to come to the USA , spend two yrs building the wall. If at the end of the 2 yr tour of duty they havent caused any problems and have no criminal history we grant them a path to citizenship that would work, or we could take the millions of people we already have here collecting welfare and send them all down there to build the wall. Make them work for there government check. We waste 100's of billions of dollars a year on welfare, about time we start getting something out of it
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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The center of the Rio is the border between Mexico and the U.S. If the wall is built it will have to be on U.S. soil and it will stop U.S. citizens from using this natural resource so what economic impact will it have ? Do we really want to give the Rio to Mexico? huh! it's a shame we can't build structures in water! btw...you live around there?
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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Sshaffer Well said and we all know what you mean but the "other side?" wants them for votes they are trying to buy their vote with your taxes. They don't care what happens to America int he meantime a long as they win elections no matter what the tax paying public wants.......jk
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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how about one of you folks tell me how the government is going to get it built on the indian reservation? how about some of that stuff without any roads at all and no practical water table for wells. what about americans who are going to refuse access and will need to be taken to court? we are not talking about a jaunt through the prairie of eastern Colorado. those are all problems that can be solved but trump only has 6 more years assuming he gets re-elected. I do not believe a continuous wall is going to happen. a lot of that remote stuff is just going to stay the way it is and continue to be a corridor. we need to solve other problems. like the FAILED war on drugs and government refusal to get serious about companies and people hiring illegals.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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how about one of you folks tell me how the government is going to get it built on the indian reservation? how about some of that stuff without any roads at all and no practical water table for wells. what about americans who are going to refuse access and will need to be taken to court? we are not talking about a jaunt through the prairie of eastern Colorado. those are all problems that can be solved but trump only has 6 more years assuming he gets re-elected. I do not believe a continuous wall is going to happen. a lot of that remote stuff is just going to stay the way it is and continue to be a corridor. we need to solve other problems. like the FAILED war on drugs and government refusal to get serious about companies and people hiring illegals. The US has owned a sixty-foot right-of-way on our side of the southern border since 1907. Roosevelt Reservation
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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Sshaffer Well said and we all know what you mean but the "other side?" wants them for votes they are trying to buy their vote with your taxes. They don't care what happens to America int he meantime a long as they win elections no matter what the tax paying public wants.......jk Spot on! Trump voters have been called deplorables, But the Dem voters are DEPORTABLES!
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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a president does not have the authority to make law through proclamation. it is unconstitutional. Lincoln tried it with the emancipation proclamation. didn't work then either. it took a constitutional amendment to free slaves in union states like Maryland 3 years after the war ended.
mnsota the 90% just moved to a different corridor.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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They are now truly at risk of losing their career jobs That is the crux of the issue. The opposition leaders have one goal and one goal only. That goal is to secure the swamp in Washington, not the one along the border.
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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If an oil line can be built in sub arctic areas and under thousands of feet of ocean, then a wall can be built where it should not have to be, Danny your grasping at straws. Obama said we all could keep our health programs we liked too, see how that went !
Yes there are more pressing needs but your missing the point here of one against the many, if either wins then the other loses everything, that's why neither wants to give in.
Your seeing the same thing with SS and Medicare, welfare, there is no compromise to work things out, regardless of both sides seeing the need for it.
Demo's know for a fact the people want illegals curbed, they have admitted to the need, they want to control, therefore their need out weighs the need of the many in this country, so its a giant stall.
Rebup's don't wish to support a business back ground President for fear they will be seen as non-political so they behind his back come up with ideas to circumnavigate his shutdown, no one wins, the whole lot need excavated and replaced on both sides, with people who do want this country back where it's supposed to be !
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall
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Straws??????????????????? Real problems that will need real solutions. 6 years to solve them
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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